EDCNs (Expanded Dynamic Civ Names) new thread

[Lone Wolf]

I'm guessing that India doesn't respawn unless the British are dead or something.

Why would it be so? It doesn't respawn, however, unless the Mughals are dead. And yeah, Pakistan is a neologism that is not exactly a term for Muslim India.

 

[Malchar]

Is anyone able to get this modmod to work with the current SVN?

 

[Hippo8085]

Sure, no problem.

Zip-folder on second post is updated. No guarantees I didn't screw up.

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

A suggestion to Brazil. If a date may be used to change used names, Brazil should have 2 (or even 3 if that's not an issue) when running a non-socialist republic.

From 1889 to 1937 we were called Republic of the United States of Brazil. Then from 1937 to 1967 we were called simply United States of Brazil. Only from 1967 onwards that we got our current name Federative Republic of Brazil.

Maybe Brazil could be called United States of Brazil before the 60s and Federative Republic of Brazil afterwards if it's using a non-socialist republic system.

If someone else has already showed this here, my apologies.

The same applies to Germany which should be Weimar Republic before the 1950s.

 

[Malchar]

I get error popups when I launch DOC with this modmod. I'm using the SVN 966. Is anyone getting it to work?

 

[Hippo8085]

As I said, no guarantees I didn't screw up, which apparently, I did.

 

[Leoreth]

I'm bringing this thread to the front page again; I'll review the modmod before release and include some of its changes into the main mod.

 

[yurisusuki]

Sorry to necro this thread, i brougth Civ 4 again with the sole reason to play this mod again, this modmod still work? was one of my favorites

 

[Si No Hay Paz]

Sorry to necro this thread, i brougth Civ 4 again with the sole reason to play this mod again, this modmod still work? was one of my favorites

It's still alive and living and growing, there's about to be a new map put out I think!

 

[yurisusuki]

It's still alive and living and growing, there's about to be a new map put out I think!

Oh thanks, Im already playing, but Expanded Dynamic names was one of my favorites addons.

 

[freethink]

I noticed the Roman dynamic name for the Netherlands in-game is 'Netherlands instead of the historical 'Belgica'

Possible Roman Dynamic Vassal Names. This also includes names for new civs:

Aztecs: Anahuac
Modern Mexico: Mexicum
America: Novi Orbes (New World) - this might sound silly but it was taken from an original source.
Canada: Ultima Thule or Hyperborea - it seems fitting that this could be name of Canada since Utima Thule was used in middle ages to mention far away places.
Hyperborea was meant to be north Eurasia but I could easily see that transferring over to Canada if/when its discovered.
Colombia: Musica (native name)
Incas: Cuscoa (native name)
Brazil: Pindorama (native name)
Argentina: Ultima Thule Meridionalis (fictionalized name based on Thule and Argentina's Southernmost position
Congo: Asigyama
Indonesia (Java): Insulinda
Celts: Gallia Celtica
Vietnam: Manzi (After Marco Polo's description of Southern China)
Nubia: Aethiopia? or...
Nubia: Aethiopia Superior
Ethiopia: Aethiopia Inferior (if somehow these two are vassals at the same time)
Sweeden: Suecia
Assyria: Should be Assyria?
Sumeria: Mesopotamia
Malaysia: Aurea Chersonesus
Khmer: Kattigara (or Aurea Chersonesus if no other southeast asian civ exists)
Swahili: Azania
Hittites: Cappadocia?
Kieven Rus: Bospora or Scythia
Chola: Taprobane
Myanmar: Besynga
Toltecs: Columnae Tula (Pillars of Tula)
Maya: Either Itza being the name of the people of Chichen Itza or something fun... given the mythological nature of Mayan Civilization and its distance from Rome I think calling it Elysium would be a wonderful easter egg but I don't expect that to go anywhere.

 

[freethink]

Celtic Dynamic Names:

Keltoi Peoples
Keltoi Confederation
Celt-Iberian Confederacy- Iberia
Gaul Confederacy
Gallic Kingdom
Gallic Empire --> might keep as Christian if 7 cities or more
Iceni Confederacy --> Kingdom Britanni

Christianization
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Kingdom of Alba --> Kingdom of Scotland if Medieval and England Exists and there are no cities outside of the UK
Kingdom of Gwynedd (if the capital is in western England)
Celtic Church (If Chrisitan Theocracy with cities in multiple areas)
Kingdom of Brittney --> Republic? (If Brittney ever survives that long)
Keltic Sultanate
Tuatha of Eire
High Kingdom of Ireland (must have centralization)
Republic of Ireland
Republic of Scotland
Celtic Council (Cities in multiple countries in the global era or later)
Peoples Republic of Ireland
National Corporation of Ireland (fascist Ireland

Vassal names: Ruiri or Overking

 

[freethink]

Vietnam Dynamic Names



Au Viet Peoples
Au Lac- Default first kingdom
Nan Yue- if many cities are in China or if the capital is in Guangzhou --> (if somehow modern) State of Nan Yue --> should not be fascist
Dai Viet (Medieval and expands to the South)
Champa?- (Only if Hindu in all circumstances)
Sultanate of Champa (alt-history easter egg, Islamic)
Đàng Trong --> If North is Lost and is Buddhist/Confucian/Taoist
Dai Nam (Industrial Vietnam)
Black Flag Army (Secret Easter Egg, Must be of Chinese religion + Revolutionism)
Empire of Vietnam (Modern noncommunist Vietnam)
Democratic Republic of Vietnam (Communist but only north)
Socialist Republic of Vietnam (Communist North and South)
Republic of Vietnam (Most non-Communist Vietnam)
Greater Vietnam (Fascist)

Vassals: Pre Modern: Mandala, Modern: Generic

Cambodia: Chenla if modern then -->Campuchia
If Vietnam is Communist than of course --> Peoples Republic of Campuchia
China: Trung Hoa
Thailand Tiếng Thái


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if subjugated by China before 1900:
Protectorate General to Pacify the South (therefore allowing the Chinese player to have a pacifying protectorate for all four directions

 

[SOVNARKOM]

Suggestions:
Germany/Prussia: North German Confederation（When not possessing South Germany）
Greece (communism): Democratic Republic of Greece (Democratic Army of Greece seem strange as a country name)
Carthage(communism): People's Democratic Republic of Punic(Inspired by the real name of Algeria)
Tamil(communism while capital is on Ceylon Island): Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka

Babylon as American vassal: Coalition Provisional Authority
Canada as American vassal:State of Canada
Mali as American vassal:Commonwealth of Liberia/Republic of Liberia
Canada as French vassal:Quebec French
Germany as French vassal: French occupied Germany/Saar Protectorate
Prussia as French vassal: Kingdom of Saxony/Kingdom of Westphalia
Prussia as Poland vassal: Duchy of Prussia
Holy Roman as Russia/USSR vassal(communism while capital is on Hungary): Hungarian Soviet Republic/People's Republic of Hungary
Phoenicia as Greece vassal: Hellenistic Phoenicia
Phoenicia as Ottoman vassal:Emirate of Mount Lebanon
Tamil as British vassal: Madras Presidency

In addition,The communist name of Babylon should be Baathist Iraq/Babylon, while the fascist name is Golden Square. Their code was reversed in the game

 

[Logoncal]

Suggesting Baathist Babylon for Communist babylon is hilarious because they were as communist as the nazis were socialists.
For the extra reference: In the mod Baathist Arabia is fascist.

 

[SOVNARKOM]

Suggesting Baathist Babylon for Communist babylon is hilarious because they were as communist as the nazis were socialists.
For the extra reference: In the mod Baathist Arabia is fascist.

Of course, strictly speaking, this is not correct, but the fact that the Golden Square is communist seems even more puzzling (this is a pro German Italian fascist military organization during WW II.The Ba'ath Party at least nominally claims themselves be "socialist".this may be the reason why they represent communist names in the RFC).
As for Arabia... this is precisely one of the reasons why I am confused, because the current communist name for Arabia is Ba'athist Arabia in game, while in Babylon Ba'athist Iraq is the name of the fascist Babylon.So is the Ba'ath Party seen as fascist or communist in the game?(Also,the name of the fascist Arab is Pan Arab State in the game)
And, what is your evaluation of my other suggestions?

 

[Logoncal]

If anything this shows how successful Baathism is towards confusing people

 

[SOVNARKOM]

If anything this shows how successful Baathism is towards confusing people

But at least we can agree that the Golden Square representing communism Babylon is absolutely absurd, isn't it?(In addition, the full name of Iraq regime under the rule of this organization seems to be Golden Square National Defense Government)

 

[Logoncal]

But at least we can agree that the Golden Square representing communism Babylon is absolutely absurd, isn't it?

It is, but ive seen more cursed things in DOC.

 

[SOVNARKOM]

It is, but ive seen more cursed things in DOC.

At least, the Baathist Iraq and the Baathist Arab in the game should belong to the same ideology, whether it is communist or fascist (in addition, if it falls under fascism, Golden Square must be removed or used as the exclusive vassal country name of fascist Germany/Italy)