Ot4e: hi
Ot4e: civfr will allow us to send missionary to you across their land
Ot4e: so we can arrange it
2metraninja: that is great
Ot4e: we may be can arrange it through RB since Apolyton refuses to close borders with them
2metraninja: we are a bit worried by them not talking to us at all
Ot4e: this is common situation
2metraninja: Frenchies I mean
Ot4e: very usual
Ot4e: i am not surprized
2metraninja:
but they dont seems to lack participation
2metraninja: they log in and out like 10 times a turn
2metraninja: why is so hard to respond to a single specific message?
Ot4e: it is a diplomatic move
2metraninja: yeah, I know
Ot4e: to show that you are busy to do anything
2metraninja: and this is what worries me
Ot4e: same thing as "not showing their true economic"
Ot4e: not showing their true reasoning
Ot4e: and making it look like they dont pay much attention
Ot4e: they also refused to trade maps
2metraninja: you think so?
Ot4e: i think they got map from uciv
2metraninja: which wont help them much if you or Poly did not traded with Uciv before
2metraninja:
RB asked us very very persistently to give them answer on NAP extention. they wanted NAP till t200
2metraninja: they even threatened us semi-veiled
Ot4e: this could be expected, of course they have power and will try to threat others
2metraninja:
little they know how bad we react to threats
Ot4e: they understand this
Ot4e: actually there are 2 possible reactions
Ot4e: 1) to try to extend peace as fast as possible
2) declare what is obvious if you dont choose 1)
2metraninja: yes, they do want to know what to expect and to plan accordingly and are not afraid to act harder to get quicker answer
Ot4e: we finally got peace with inca
Ot4e: not sure that is important now though
Ot4e: if they are truely going to be attacked
2metraninja:
I see this even as backdraft
2metraninja: now you cant take anything from them, even their empty border cities
2metraninja: and all will stay for RB to be captured
2metraninja: Poly did the same mistake (in my PoV)
Ot4e: i know I proposed to capture them even before it was clear that they are the target
Ot4e: but alone for us it is not good opportunity
Ot4e: their border cities not worth that
2metraninja: we will see if RB will like them better
2metraninja: what are Rb teching right now?
Ot4e: guilds
Ot4e: 2 turns
Ot4e: 1 turn for this new turn
2metraninja: aha
2metraninja: makes sense with all the stables they were building
2metraninja: this means they are some 5-6 turns from attacking
2metraninja: little after t150
2metraninja: or t150
2metraninja: havent looked all their cities near Germans
2metraninja: damned German are not teching Archery and HBR
Ot4e: did you tell them to do this?\
2metraninja: tried
2metraninja: but will tell them in straight words right now
2metraninja: I see their power is not even rising.
Ot4e: i will send them note now
Ot4e: before we couldnt do this because were almost foes
Ot4e: so it could be considered as "tricky" plan
Ot4e: to ruin their economy even more
2metraninja: but we told them
2metraninja: seems they did not got it or did not believed us
2metraninja: MZ told me he saw Rb kept half their army in their own capitol and moved the other half to Germans borders