Mr. Dictator
A Chain-Smoking Fox
but if israel is building their schools i dont think they would keep bombing them. i know what your saying though. and i agree they're never gonna love em. but we could probably cut the attacks down.
Simon Darkshade said:Clearing an area means literally that. Car bombs and suicide bombers need to swim in the sea of the people to be effective; Israel does not need the land, nor the people, but rather a buffer zone. This is combined with killing or neutralizing every known member of Hezbollah that can be, removing their propaganda mechanisms from circulation, and then seeing who to talk with.
Falling into the root causes fox trap can be very dangerous, particularly in regards to Hezbollah. Their original casus belli is now confined to the Shabaa Farms, and they are on the wrong side of the international opinion there. They have extended their calls to the 'liberation' of Jerusalem, and the concomitant destruction of the Jewish State. These are not starting grounds for negotiation.
The root cause is that 60 years afterwards, it is still convenient for the surrounding Arab states to have the Palestinians as a stalking horse in refugee camps; their victimhood makes a good distraction and rallying cry. State sponsored terror is an act of war, and all of the Arab states have made ample use of it. Some, Egypt and Jordan, have accepted reality.
Others still have to, such as the then Saudi Crown Prince's offer to recognize Israel in return for a number of conditions that amounted to the kitchen sink. Such magnanimous diplomacy!
One can address the root causes of the issue at the same time as taking a hard line on terror and war on the nation.
Israel's policy is that they will take all steps for there to be no more Masadas.
Sidhe said:Sorry missed this: nice use of Jewish history, Masada? Could you expand on ancient history? Not sure of the relevance but anyway.
Sidhe said:Sorry missed this: nice use of Jewish history, Masada? Could you expand on ancient history? Not sure of the relevance but anyway. Taking a hard line on anything is what lead to this in the first place, the only way IMHO is to take a moderate line of compromise, because hard line simply breeds hate, and leads to hardline counter measures.
Sidhe said:They did vote for a cease fire but the US vetoed it unfortunately.
Truth is truth, I cant help but agree.Simon Darkshade said:T
In this world, not everyone is going to love you. Some will hate you regardless. Some of those will be blood enemies. With them, there is no holding back, nor point of it.
Or to any conflict.Sounding like a broken John Lennon record player does not have any relation to the conflict.
If we wise up and make oursleves energy independent, we'll be better off, and so will our enemies. They hate selling us our fuel even more than we hate buying it from them.What have the Arabs offered? Furthermore, the point still stands of why are people in refugee camps for decades on end? Far worse population disruptions and movements occured in Europe and India, yet everyone involved there seems to have coped. Whose purpose do images of a wretched populace serve?
Lotus49 said:They just can't win. Why can't they realize that...
They arent hoping to win in the Western sense.Gladi said:Myabe this is problem? That because the way they see it whatever happens they will be losers? (though it is not realistic)
Gladi said:Myabe this is problem? That because the way they see it whatever happens they will be losers? (though it is not realistic)
Lotus49 said:Well Israel is here to stay, and they are backed by the U.S. So, what exactly are they hoping to accomplish by fighting, resisting and defying, in all seriousness? It's pretty silly. A total lack of comprehension as to the amount of power they are trying to push against.
You'd think they could find something better and more constructive to do with their time.
Bozo Erectus said:They arent hoping to win in the Western sense.
Gladi said:But those are EEEvil Jews! They will steal our land and dishonour our women!! It is written in Protocols of Elders of Zion!!!
/sarcasm
They got it from an something which has begun to be alien to most Western peoples, which is the notion that there are some principles which are worth dying for. With the exception of the USA, the West today is at a severe disadvantage, because it no longer has any beliefs worth fighting for.Gladi said:So what kind? Die fighting? Where did they get this idea?
Bozo Erectus said:regardless whether you add a "/sarcasm]" you are accurately reflecting the sentiments of the average people in the Muslim world.