K-mod Deity Fun -- Collaboration of SGOTM teams
- Thread starter Duckweed
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@drewisfat
The problem of this war is how to deal with Sury's reinforcements, a bigger SOD is more difficult to handle, so I would rather separate them and let them attack to merge.
This is basically what I'm going to do and we will see what Sury's SOD will react next.
Worker direction
worker in copper city mine, another worker road towards stone city
City build
Capital -- Whip settler next -> archers non-stopping
Copper city -- whip granary -> OF to warrior ->will also whip a WB at size 2
Gold city -- finish galley we need it to transfer archers
The problem of this war is how to deal with Sury's reinforcements, a bigger SOD is more difficult to handle, so I would rather separate them and let them attack to merge.
This is basically what I'm going to do and we will see what Sury's SOD will react next.
Worker direction
worker in copper city mine, another worker road towards stone city
City build
Capital -- Whip settler next -> archers non-stopping
Copper city -- whip granary -> OF to warrior ->will also whip a WB at size 2
Gold city -- finish galley we need it to transfer archers
Longbowman
Chieftain
- Joined
- Nov 21, 2013
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So? Can you survive?
We could resume the game for now.
I'm still waiting for the technique support for my PC. The funny thing was that the technician sent me a cheap, unworkable video card and then tried to convinced me that he actually sent me a better video card.
Pomthom, or soundjata, who has not played a single turn, do you want to take the role of saving the glorious Chinese ancient Empire or wave the white flag.
Other SGOTM players and teammate (doshin), this game really needs your help!
I'm still waiting for the technique support for my PC. The funny thing was that the technician sent me a cheap, unworkable video card and then tried to convinced me that he actually sent me a better video card.
Pomthom, or soundjata, who has not played a single turn, do you want to take the role of saving the glorious Chinese ancient Empire or wave the white flag.
Other SGOTM players and teammate (doshin), this game really needs your help!
pomthom
Drive & Reverb
Have plenty of civ time next week if this can wait until Monday
pomthom
Drive & Reverb
Ok y'all, shall we get this over with?
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T79-80 mini PPP
The Sury Trick
T79: move Beijing Archer 2S to block off Sury's pillage path and perhaps "trap him" North of Shanghai
T80: move Beijing Warrior 2S and pray
City builds
Beijing: T79 - Settler, T80 - whip Settler
Shangai: T79/80 - Galley
Copper city: T79 - Granary, T80 - whip Granary
Stone city: T79/80 - Worker
Workers
Copper city Worker: T79 - Mine 1/4, T80 - Mine 2/4
Pig Worker: T79 - no moves left, T80 - move 1SW road 1/2 and cancel
Tech
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Diplo
Be aware (© JCVD).
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I have re-attached the current save
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T79-80 mini PPP
The Sury Trick
T79: move Beijing Archer 2S to block off Sury's pillage path and perhaps "trap him" North of Shanghai
T80: move Beijing Warrior 2S and pray
City builds
Beijing: T79 - Settler, T80 - whip Settler
Shangai: T79/80 - Galley
Copper city: T79 - Granary, T80 - whip Granary
Stone city: T79/80 - Worker
Workers
Copper city Worker: T79 - Mine 1/4, T80 - Mine 2/4
Pig Worker: T79 - no moves left, T80 - move 1SW road 1/2 and cancel
Tech
Aesthetics 0%
Diplo
Be aware (© JCVD).
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I have re-attached the current save
pomthom
Drive & Reverb
No one 'cept Folket replied so I just went on with the 2 turns.
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The Sury trap worked!
So what's the plan now??
Darius has crossed our borders to settle our spot. But we'll be quicker:
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The Sury trap worked!
Spoiler :
So what's the plan now??
Darius has crossed our borders to settle our spot. But we'll be quicker:
Spoiler :
soundjata
reluctant warrior
- Joined
- Jun 3, 2011
- Messages
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Good job starting the game again!
Some unsorted thoughts:
If the stack won't move, we could buy peace in a few turns by gifting a city (on ice) away?
Building a few more archers and a couple of axes (after a barracks in Nanjing?) and then attack the stack is another option.
It is going to be costly for our finances though.
Currently, commerce/expenses is 39/20.
Despite the fact I have no idea which way to go research wise, how are we going to generate beakers? Maybe the first step is to build a library and use them specialists?
A work boat is required for the new city in 4 turns. It can be 1 pop whipped in Nanjing in 3 turns.
If Darius declared now we'd be toast... Any reason to convert to Judaism asap? Heard that AIs can declare even at friendly in this mod?
Guangzhou (Goo Ang Jaw) warrior should go on a scouting mission shouldn't he? Even a scout would be quite valuable now.
Warrior 1 must move 1NE now.
Because if a forest/jungle grows on the tile we want to settle on, we are screwed
Some unsorted thoughts:
If the stack won't move, we could buy peace in a few turns by gifting a city (on ice) away?
Building a few more archers and a couple of axes (after a barracks in Nanjing?) and then attack the stack is another option.
It is going to be costly for our finances though.
Currently, commerce/expenses is 39/20.
Despite the fact I have no idea which way to go research wise, how are we going to generate beakers? Maybe the first step is to build a library and use them specialists?
A work boat is required for the new city in 4 turns. It can be 1 pop whipped in Nanjing in 3 turns.
If Darius declared now we'd be toast... Any reason to convert to Judaism asap? Heard that AIs can declare even at friendly in this mod?
Guangzhou (Goo Ang Jaw) warrior should go on a scouting mission shouldn't he? Even a scout would be quite valuable now.
Warrior 1 must move 1NE now.
Because if a forest/jungle grows on the tile we want to settle on, we are screwed
Sorry for silence in these days, PC just got fixed today.
Looks like soundjata gave some good suggestions. I'll take a look at the save tomorrow. Would be nice if there's a plan to comment.
One thing I'm sure now that it's good time to convert to Darius religion this turn.
Looks like soundjata gave some good suggestions. I'll take a look at the save tomorrow. Would be nice if there's a plan to comment.
One thing I'm sure now that it's good time to convert to Darius religion this turn.
pomthom
Drive & Reverb
Will post a ~5 turn PPP so we can get the discussion going
pomthom
Drive & Reverb
T81-85 mini PPP draft
Apart from Beijing, I have renamed the cities to make it easier:
Convert to Judaism now.
I think we should start building a Library in Sweet Copper. This would be a good place to get our first GS ; troops will come out of Beijing and Ice Bullion which are closer to the front.
Not too sure how to handle Sury and what builds to plan in Beijing and IB... Ideas?
Send Lonely Stone warrior to scout?
@soundjata: don't understand the move Warrior 1 in case jungle pops story. In any case we wouldn't be screwed I think, we have a 1 turn margin since he is aiming at the same spot
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Micro
Tech
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Apart from Beijing, I have renamed the cities to make it easier:
Spoiler :
Convert to Judaism now.
I think we should start building a Library in Sweet Copper. This would be a good place to get our first GS ; troops will come out of Beijing and Ice Bullion which are closer to the front.
Not too sure how to handle Sury and what builds to plan in Beijing and IB... Ideas?
Send Lonely Stone warrior to scout?
@soundjata: don't understand the move Warrior 1 in case jungle pops story. In any case we wouldn't be screwed I think, we have a 1 turn margin since he is aiming at the same spot
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Micro
Spoiler :
Tech
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Beijing should keep on archers, simply for survival. Not sure whether to focus on hammer tiles or food tiles to whip another settler for the wheat site sooner.
Not very sure about gold city build, either wall (waiting for stone bonus saves hammers but increases risk on defense) or monument.
Copper site should try to connect the copper as soon as possible, that means some adjustment of the worker micro near new city.
Not very sure about gold city build, either wall (waiting for stone bonus saves hammers but increases risk on defense) or monument.
Copper site should try to connect the copper as soon as possible, that means some adjustment of the worker micro near new city.
pomthom
Drive & Reverb
Good point I'll review the micro so that both workers start on mining the Copper so as to be connected on T87 T88 (see next comment)
Also the turn of anarchy screws up everything
Also the turn of anarchy screws up everything
pomthom
Drive & Reverb
Question: what to do with the Galley until next settler?
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T81-87 mini PPP draft v2 (updates in red)
Apart from Beijing, I have renamed the cities to make it easier:
Convert to Judaism now.
I think we should start building a Library in Sweet Copper. This would be a good place to get our first GS ; troops will come out of Beijing and Ice Bullion which are closer to the front.
Not too sure how to handle Sury and what builds to plan in Beijing and IB... Ideas? -> Archers in Beijing and Monument in IB (Duckweed also mentioned Walls but I'm not sure: if Sury doesn't have the odds to attack he won't and continue towards Beijung right?). I'd favour hammers over food in Beijing over next few turns, getting out the Settler sooner should be justified only if it can be escorted to the Wheat + followed by a Worker to improve it (but that may be possible, I didn't do the math). OTOH are we considering gifting a city to Sury in exchange for peace?
Send Lonely Stone warrior to scout?
@soundjata: don't understand the move Warrior 1 in case jungle pops story. In any case we wouldn't be screwed I think, we have a 1 turn margin since he is aiming at the same spot
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Micro (changed to get Copper as soon as possible -ie T88 the turn after it is within our cultural borders)
Tech
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T81-87 mini PPP draft v2 (updates in red)
Apart from Beijing, I have renamed the cities to make it easier:
Spoiler :
Convert to Judaism now.
I think we should start building a Library in Sweet Copper. This would be a good place to get our first GS ; troops will come out of Beijing and Ice Bullion which are closer to the front.
Not too sure how to handle Sury and what builds to plan in Beijing and IB... Ideas? -> Archers in Beijing and Monument in IB (Duckweed also mentioned Walls but I'm not sure: if Sury doesn't have the odds to attack he won't and continue towards Beijung right?). I'd favour hammers over food in Beijing over next few turns, getting out the Settler sooner should be justified only if it can be escorted to the Wheat + followed by a Worker to improve it (but that may be possible, I didn't do the math). OTOH are we considering gifting a city to Sury in exchange for peace?
Send Lonely Stone warrior to scout?
@soundjata: don't understand the move Warrior 1 in case jungle pops story. In any case we wouldn't be screwed I think, we have a 1 turn margin since he is aiming at the same spot
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Micro (changed to get Copper as soon as possible -ie T88 the turn after it is within our cultural borders)
Spoiler :
Tech
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Sury's stack will stay on that tile until the reinforcements come. If the defense on the gold hill is weak, the stack will try to attack and merge with the reinforcements. Therefore, the wall in gold city helps with the defense.
I'm not entirely sure about the condition of his attack.
I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to use a settler for temporary peace. As Manco Capac mentioned, AI will still plan to attack the same target during the peace treaty. One way to deal with Sury is to delay his pace to Construction by continuing on the war.
Edit: One thing about city build is that capital should start a warrior before connecting the copper so that it could produce a spear immediately. We need at least 3~4 spears for defense in city and blocking tiles.
