Zack
99% hot gas
SPRIG WAS MAFIA????!!!! 
Grrr...... I saw his death written in the update as an innocent.
Grrr...... I saw his death written in the update as an innocent.
Metal Gear Mafia Game Thread
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mgsmuhammad
Resident Stalker
Mm..
That mistake was kind of game-breaking.
(not as game-breaking as Foxhound inactivity and CG not realising he had a night-kill till the day before he was lynched, but still..
)
That mistake was kind of game-breaking.
(not as game-breaking as Foxhound inactivity and CG not realising he had a night-kill till the day before he was lynched, but still..
)
Snerk
Smeghead
Red Army QT for those interested.
Good game, msgmuhammed! Well played, mafia! Too bad about all the inactivity but what are you gonna do?
Good game, msgmuhammed! Well played, mafia! Too bad about all the inactivity but what are you gonna do?
If a mistake convinces me that a mafia is a confirmed innocent and gets me to tell them some secrets (like me not actually being a roleblocker), then yes, it's game breaking.
Could the mafia actually recruit anybody, and if so, how many people did they start out with? Because 5 mafia is too many for a 20-person mafia game, even with all the abilities we had.
Snerk
Smeghead
And what was the deal with those lightswords and whatnot Jarrema found with his post mortem scans?
Catharsis
catch u on the flip scythe
Oh, did we win already? I thought there'd be another night. Well, congrats to my fellow FOXes then, even Romanibackstabberdon'tlaunchthenukemyparentsaredeeeeeeeeadchine 
And thanks to mgsm, a most atmospheric game with some clever mechanics. Too bad about the inactive FOXHOUND team
At the beginning, there was only me on the FOX team. I could kill on odd-numbered nights and convert on even-numbered nights, although my conversions could fail, unless the person was "disillusioned". (Presumably that is why I had the one-time lynch-evade ability. It was so I could survive to Night 2 and convert someone if I was first-round wagoned. That's my best guess anyway.)
Romanichine was converted on Night 2, Sprig on Night 4, BSmith on Night 6, and I tried and failed to convert The Bake on Night 8.
And thanks to mgsm, a most atmospheric game with some clever mechanics. Too bad about the inactive FOXHOUND team At the beginning, there was only me on the FOX team. I could kill on odd-numbered nights and convert on even-numbered nights, although my conversions could fail, unless the person was "disillusioned". (Presumably that is why I had the one-time lynch-evade ability. It was so I could survive to Night 2 and convert someone if I was first-round wagoned. That's my best guess anyway.)
Romanichine was converted on Night 2, Sprig on Night 4, BSmith on Night 6, and I tried and failed to convert The Bake on Night 8.
Good game guys. Too bad that it wasn’t as fully balanced as intended, we ended up being the only mafia team since DC didn’t recruit anyone. It was quite fun and we had a bit of a challenge pulling it all off in the end, but it worked out for us. The past few votes were really on the line for us, so it could easily have gone bad and been a town win.
As you can see from the recruiting mechanics, I had an innocent role for most of the game. That was the role that I posted in my defense, although at that point I had already been recruited. And I did see the mistake with Sprig being killed before it was changed, so while in retrospect it does look like I was covering for him, it was not a lie.
Here is the FOX QT. I’d love to see the dead QT
As you can see from the recruiting mechanics, I had an innocent role for most of the game. That was the role that I posted in my defense, although at that point I had already been recruited. And I did see the mistake with Sprig being killed before it was changed, so while in retrospect it does look like I was covering for him, it was not a lie.
Here is the FOX QT. I’d love to see the dead QT
Zack
99% hot gas
http://quicktopic.com/45/H/gtjxs8vX8Wj?m1=71&mN=71&bare=1
That list was two weeks ago! And Sprig would have been on there!
Great game, mgsmuhammad! We all make mistakes our first game!
That list was two weeks ago! And Sprig would have been on there!
Great game, mgsmuhammad! We all make mistakes our first game!
Zack
99% hot gas
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Romanichine
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My role PMs for Ursula and Elisa:
@my FOX partners:
So Elisa was not part of FOX and had different wincons. Being not part of FOX is why you were not able to launch the nuke (it wasn't a special power
).
I didn't think explaining this was a good idea specially because you could have imagined all sort of ways for me to backstab you, but there weren't any after Big Boss and Null died (Day 5).
Catharsis, last night you could have launched the nuke, as I turned back to Ursula (otherwise I couldn't win with you guys) and I almost PMed you about it, telling you that you could launch and screw me, or alternatively, trust me and not launch, but I decided against it. Thought you were more likely to launch, no matter what I would say, so I prayed that you wouldn't try to launch it again (and you didn't)
If I explained everything last night, do you think you would have launched?
Anyway, I'm not the backstabbing kind, but I had to play my role as it was designed. It wouldn't be nice to the host to play differently. Still it was a pleasure to team with you guys: Catharsis, BSmith and Sprig, and the major/minor victory doesn't matter. As I've said in the QT, if the roles were reversed, I would've taken the minor victory. We all won, that's all there is to know.
Thanks for the game mgs, I liked the creative Ursula/Elisa roles and the game mechanics looked fine, if Foxhound had been playing, and if CivGeneral had been killing.
And good game everyone! Town, you lynched too many (6) of your own (actually 5 if we don't count our manipulation to lynch Jarrema). With so many, it's okay that you lose even if the game could have ended up differently for various reasons.
And my apologies to Robbie, for telling him that he would be recruited if he didn't vote today. As you can see in our QT, it was our intention to recruit you, and we didn't think the game would end today. It wasn't malicious in any way.
Spoiler :
Spoiler :
@my FOX partners:
So Elisa was not part of FOX and had different wincons. Being not part of FOX is why you were not able to launch the nuke (it wasn't a special power
). I didn't think explaining this was a good idea specially because you could have imagined all sort of ways for me to backstab you, but there weren't any after Big Boss and Null died (Day 5).
Catharsis, last night you could have launched the nuke, as I turned back to Ursula (otherwise I couldn't win with you guys) and I almost PMed you about it, telling you that you could launch and screw me, or alternatively, trust me and not launch, but I decided against it. Thought you were more likely to launch, no matter what I would say, so I prayed that you wouldn't try to launch it again (and you didn't
)If I explained everything last night, do you think you would have launched?
Anyway, I'm not the backstabbing kind, but I had to play my role as it was designed. It wouldn't be nice to the host to play differently. Still it was a pleasure to team with you guys: Catharsis, BSmith and Sprig, and the major/minor victory doesn't matter. As I've said in the QT, if the roles were reversed, I would've taken the minor victory. We all won, that's all there is to know.
Thanks for the game mgs, I liked the creative Ursula/Elisa roles and the game mechanics looked fine, if Foxhound had been playing, and if CivGeneral had been killing.
And good game everyone! Town, you lynched too many (6) of your own (actually 5 if we don't count our manipulation to lynch Jarrema). With so many, it's okay that you lose even if the game could have ended up differently for various reasons.
And my apologies to Robbie, for telling him that he would be recruited if he didn't vote today. As you can see in our QT, it was our intention to recruit you, and we didn't think the game would end today. It wasn't malicious in any way.
Only 4. (Takhisis, civplayah, Dumanios, and OST) Jarrema and DaveShack don't count, since everyone voting to lynch them was a mafia. And in all fairness, we had good reason for Dumanios (roleblock), and OST was at the beginning of the game, when mafia hardly ever get lynched anyway.
Civvy and Takhisis were fails, though. Nice job getting civvy lynched, Catharsis, even if he was one of our top suspects anyway. Takhisis was just because we were trying to narrow down suspects and ended up on him, and we have no excuse for that.
After that, though, you can't blame us. How was I to know that lynching Catharsis would get me killed? We figured out who most of the mafia were by that point, we just couldn't lynch them.
Civvy and Takhisis were fails, though. Nice job getting civvy lynched, Catharsis, even if he was one of our top suspects anyway. Takhisis was just because we were trying to narrow down suspects and ended up on him, and we have no excuse for that.
After that, though, you can't blame us. How was I to know that lynching Catharsis would get me killed? We figured out who most of the mafia were by that point, we just couldn't lynch them.
Romanichine
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Ah yes, only 4 mislynchs, I forgot about Catharsis' power.
Overall, I guess it helped us that the other night killers/recruiter were inactive or killed early, but you had a big advantage that I wasn't aware of: a five men mason team. I'm surprised by this, it's a great starting edge.
Overall, I guess it helped us that the other night killers/recruiter were inactive or killed early, but you had a big advantage that I wasn't aware of: a five men mason team. I'm surprised by this, it's a great starting edge.
