Multipolarity II - Game Thread

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Prussia, needless to say, approves of the shift to the right in Soviet politics. Prussia intends to continue its alliance with the... well. It's not quite sure what the former USSR goes by now, so will just use "Russia" for short. Union of National Socialist Republics? UNSR?

It appears the new National Socialist government exercises sovereignty in Russian territory, ergo, Prussia feels it is the legitimate government.

Bengal:

Oh joy. This is about to get even worse isn't it?

Lake Victoria:

You say that like it's a bad thing. Blood for the blood God!
 
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HAN: "Good evening, and welcome to Counterpoint. I'm Chonglin Han. Tonight, I have the privilege of an exclusive interview with the enigmatic Emperor of China, Otto IV. Otto—can I call you Otto?—thank you for coming."

OTTO: "Of course. I thank you for your invitation."

HAN: "You have been Emperor now for how many years?"

OTTO: "I have been Emperor for almost 12 years."

HAN: "Recall for us how you gained the position. Originally the state was governed by a so-called National Council. What was their logic for calling you to the throne?"

OTTO: "As you know, I am a direct descendant of George I. The Xiang Dynasty had made China a huge Empire. Also, they were the ones who introduced Christianity in Beijing, and in China in general. The Church played an importand role in Demon Occupied Beijing, since the Church kept the Chinese National identity. And of course, George was the greatest Saint of the Church. So the common people though of him as a Saint, a great General who led them to glory. They viewed him the same way the Greeks view Alexander the Great or the Mongols view Genghis Khan. It was a time of a huge Chinese Empire. It remind them of their past glories.

"Also, the new State needed a symbol to unite. Wanted someone to unite all people of the new Empire. That symbol was the Xiang Dynasty. The Xiang Dynasty lived in Italy since the loss of the Kingdom of China. Otto Von Constantine was exiled in Italy, and there the Xiang Dynasty became a rich and strong family.

"And so i was called to unite the new Empire."

HAN: "So would it be correct to say the monarchy's resurrection was motivated by its symbolic application, rather than any immediate political necessity?"

OTTO: "Yes. The Emperor is a symbol of unity. The country is led by the elected Government."

HAN: "The Imperial constitution isn't well-understood by foreign observers, partly because yours is such a new state, and partly because there’s so little public information available. How exactly is the government structured? What's the delegation of power between the Crown and Parliament?"

OTTO: "Well, the powers of the Monarch is to declare war and Peace and can Veto a resolution passed by the Parliament. However, his Veto may be overturned if 2/3 of the Senate votes for the withdraw of the Veto.

"The Senate is elected every 4 years, unless in times of crisis where it can be extented. The Senate votes and passes laws of the Government. If a Government law is not passed by the Senate, then it cannot be implemented.

"The largest party in the Senate forms a Government. It can either be an one party Government or a Coalition. The leader of the leading Party is usually the Prime Minister, except in times of coalition. The Government has to have a vote of confidence in the Senate."

HAN: "In contrast to your predecessors, George and Otto I, you don't seem to play an active role in party politics. Is your role in government, if you'll pardon the term, superficial, or do you believe you have a duty to uphold state welfare, even if it means directly contradicting the will of the Senate?"

OTTO: "My duty is to unite the people of China. As a head of State, I cannot suuport a Party or an another. I also believe that the people should decide what they want to do. If, for example, Mr. Jing is elected Prime Minister and declares a blockade of the Union, I will not stop him since it is the will of the people.

"However, in extreme cases, I have the right to dismiss a Government and declare elections."

HAN: "Would you oppose a war if you believed it would endanger the state?"

OTTO: "Yes.

"By the way, as you can see from my previous answers, the Empire of China is not the 'Evil Empire' or 'Absolutist state that returns Asia to the Dark Ages' like most people in the Union and the rest of the Chinese States think, but a modern democratic state."

HAN: "Now, before you were appointed Emperor, what were you doing for a living?"

OTTO: "I was a rich businessman in Italy. As I told you, while Cosntantine lost his Empire, he created an economical Empire in Italy. While his father, GeorgeI, was a great Commander and Political Leader, Constantine was a great businessman."

HAN: *chuckles* "The history I was taught is considerably different, but, uh, I won't get into that here. Begging your pardon, 'Sin Chiang' strikes me as neither Italian nor Danish. Was it adopted when you became Emperor? Did it help you build a rapport with the Chinese?"

OTTO: "Well, you will also ask why I have more Chinese characteristics that European. It is because almost all members of the Xiang Dynasty after George I married Chinese Women. That's why I also have a Chinese name."

HAN: "There are lots of Chinese in Italy?"

OTTO: "No. But there are Chinese in other States. Also, some of the Chinese women that married members of the Xiang Dynasty came from the Union."

HAN: "Another side effect of globalism, I guess." *cheeky smile* "Were you fully conscious of your family tree, or did it only come to light as part of your call to the throne?"

OTTO: "Yes, I was conscious of my family tree and I am very proud of King George I."

HAN: "Really?"

OTTO: "Yes. 820 years may be long, but it is the tradition of our Dynasty that the Father tells the Son the history of the family."

HAN: "You've said you're the biological descendent of George, and quite enthusiastically identify with him; do you... think you're obliged to carry on his legacy?"

OTTO: "Yes. But his legacy as Emperor and supporter of Catholicism. Not as Conqueror."

HAN: "As you're no doubt aware, the unilateral promotion of Catholicism both by George and the republican government immediately preceding him is alleged to have been part of cultural revisionism that was genocidal in intent, and after Otto's overthrow, the number of citizens identifying themselves as Catholic declined sharpy. Yet in spite of this... values dissonance, the religion has been part and parcel of the Empire's self image. Why Catholicism?"

OTTO: "Because in Beijing, that was under Demon occupation, Catholicism stayed alive. The Catholic Church kept the Chinese National Indentity alive in Beijing and was responsible for the education of many Chinese. George I viewed himself as the ''Constantine the Great of China''. He replaced the old religion with Catholicism, mainly by missionary works of Chinese and European Christian Monks. So, in Beijing a Christian Chinese Culture was developed."

HAN: "But China was, and remains, host to many other religions, some of which had greater following than Christianity even during the height of George's reign. Again, why Catholicism?"

OTTO: "Because in Beijing, the heartland of the new Empire, Chinese Catholicism was the largest religion. As I have already told, the majority of people in Beijing were converted during the Demon Occupation. Also, Biejing was one of the first states to become part of the CRF's secret Empire and after the Union replaced the Kingdom, Beijing remained under Demon occupation. While members of the other religions were not doing anything against the occupation or even liked it, the Chinese Catholic Church was against the occupation and educated the Chinese children to have Chinese National Identity. There are many Catholic Martys who were killed by the Demons for this."

HAN: "On that subject, there are widespread accusations that the Church's antagonism of the Demon state precipitated the pogroms during the Schism. It's an issue that's weighed on me personally; I lost a number of family members to those riots. Official Imperial policy does not discriminate against the Demons, but are you concerned at all that the lingering animosity hasn't been reconciled, and that persecution still persists in private channels?"

OTTO: "Well, after so many years of occupation and oppression, it is true that many people do not like very much the Demons. I am sorry for your losses. The Imperial Policy is to stop the racism against the Demons. That's why an Autonomus Demon Republic was created in the Northen Chinese Mnachuria. Right now, this policy has led to a decrease of racism against the Demons."

HAN: "Coming full circle, I want to look at the recent elections. The Democrats are still in power, but they're on very shaky footing. If the Republicans win the next election, there is widespread speculation they will resurrect the imperialist policy of the last millennium. Now, you've already said you're obligated to remain neutral in regard to party particulars, but is the... virtually blind militarism Jing advocates a danger to state cohesion? Is it something the Crown should deny out of principle?"

OTTO: "I cannot deny the will of the people. If the people support Jing, than I will let him blockade China. But I do not think that a War will be accepted."

HAN: "A blockade is a stone's throw from outright war, and analysts believe Jing is hell-bent on provoking conflict. You're willing to let it slide?"

OTTO: "If the people want war, I can do nothing to prevent it. I can only dismiss the Government and declare elections."

HAN: "Looking forward, where do you hope China will see itself in the coming years?"

OTTO: "I hope to see it as a strong, developed country with a strong economy and peaceful relations with the other Chinese States."

HAN: "Otto, thank you again for agreeing to this interview."

OTTO: "I thank you."

HAN: "Otto IV, Emperor of China. Next week on Counterpoint, Victor Karađorđević returns to the programme to weigh in on the Partitionanian War and discuss his latest book, The New Tribalism. I'm Chonglin Han; to all, a good night."
 
On the Behavior of Clients

Lo all, just fig'd I'd put this up here for memory.

Clients' agents stay in their territory, and only are used for defense. Their agents are far too low in quality to stage coups, search for bases, etc.

Clients follow the foreign policy of their suzerain - they always vote with you on UN matters (unless they are actually a front for an NGO), they make peace and war as you do, and they will embargo whoever you embargo. Provided they aren't a Tributary client, they will always follow you into a conflict and supply some of their troops.

Just reasoned I'd point this out for any who it may affect.

You vote yea, your clients vote yea.

You declare war on/embargo Carthagistan, they declare war on/embargo Carthagistan.

They have spies, but they will use them exclusively to repel foreign attacks.

On UN Voting for minor states:

Clients adhere to a three tier system of voting in the General Assembly:

-They vote with their suzerains FIRST
-Assuming no suzerain, they vote for whoever Philanthropy is currently doing business with.
-If Philanthropy has no customers or is gridlocked, they vote based on self-interest.
 
From China
To Hitler:


Trade?

Ja, das geht.

The Second Third Reich

[Nazis marching in the streets of Moscow]

Spoiler :


The battle raged on throughout the night. Darkness gave those in Moscow no comfort, for the burning fires in both buildings and in the hearts of the men and women knew no solace.

Crows spewed insults at each other as they repeatedly clashed in brutal conflicts throughout the streets. Weapons were fired incessantly, and those without firearms used poles, knives, rocks, and anything they could find.

At first, it appears the Nazis were doomed. They had successfully taken the Kremlin, but wave after wave of angry combatants ran against their encampment. They quickly ran out of ammo, and resorted to hand-to-hand combat.

The Nazis persevered, and pushed back the attackers. Elsewhere in the city, riots were in the making. A National Socialist underground movement had been in the making for EIN TAUSEND JAHRE!*

*A common misconception about Nazis is that they wanted a "thousand year Reich". They merely said that they wanted a 12 year Reich and then they would take a "thousand year vacation". Having finished said vacation, it was time for action!

Morning came, and the snow was a mix of ash, blood, and death. Thousands had died in the chaos.

...this is the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics' Red Army...

...we see fires and smoke in Moscow..

..requesting permission to engage all hostiles....

..*static*..

.... ... requesting permission...

.. *static*.. ... *click*..

Commander Grigori Yakaterinskij, Sovereign General of the Red Army: Comrades, we face a decision. No doubt you see the smoke in the distance, rising from our beloved Moscow?

No contact has been made with the Kremlin yet. We are still trying, but prospects look bleak. If we fight now, we may kill our brothers and sisters in the fights. We may destroy our city, even kill the Premier by accident.

I have made a choice. We shall venture forth and liberate the Soviet People currently fighting in Moscow. We must be strong.

For Stalin! For the Motherland!!


Would they arrive in time?..
 
The Second Third Reich

The Reich offers a peace treaty to Partitionania.
We shall allow you to retain your single province. In exchange, you must have a standing army no larger than 5 armies, 5 air wings, and 5 navies, and you must also pay 300 income in reparations for losses.

We believe this is totally fair.
 
In other news.

Just for a typical checkup, I'd like any human players who have embargoed the USSR to either PM me or say it here. Just for recordkeeping purposes on the spreadsheet. :V
 
Crusaders: Loses 6 GPT
USSR: Loses 2 GPT.

Taste the power of the Soviet Economy! I hope you know how it feels to lose dat income.
 
Crusaders: Loses 6 GPT
USSR: Loses 2 GPT.

Taste the power of the Soviet Economy! I hope you know how it feels to lose dat income.

Mandatum sees that the USSR has not understanding of ecomonic notions. The Crusaders will not lose that much. Heck the USSR has more to lose as many of the world, including NPCs, goes against the USSR ecomonically.

OOC: Let the GM calculate. You are not the GM.
 
Mandatum sees that the USSR has not understanding of ecomonic notions. The Crusaders will not lose that much. Heck the USSR has more to lose as many of the world, including NPCs, goes against the USSR ecomonically.

OOC: Let the GM calculate. You are not the GM.

I got the numbers from the GM, you insolent terrorist scum. I will laugh as your bases are liquidated. Enjoy the income loss!
 
I got the numbers from the GM, you insolent terrorist scum. I will laugh as your bases are liquidated. Enjoy the income loss!

I think the UN said we were not terrorist. And you only know of 1 of our bases. A company has said it would provide us the lost income and building materails. You are like a bee sting against a shadow dragon; it may hurt but not harm the beast that you cannot see.
 
Mandatum Report on the so called Cloning Madness and the Possible Cloning Plot in the USSR



Written by Doctor Jon Doyle by order of the Chairman of the Research Department: Professor Sato Yamato, who has overseen the report.

It is well recorded that many figures of the past have emergence in this present time. One possibly has been and possibly is of cloning, let this lead to insurgent levels with the present of the two Stalins. Now we have report of two Hitlers on the same world, in the same time. Notably the Stalin and Hitler in the USSR may or may process the original aggressive qualities of the past, at least in note to compare to their counterparts in Greater Georgia and Madagascar respectfully. This… cloning madness is an issue of question; where did the clones originate from? It is known that throughout the ages post-22nd century cloning came more common place. Professor Eva Roux, a historian from the University of Paris in the Socialist Union of Democratic States, wrote in 2996 on issue of the cloning.

It appears that since advancement in genetic engineering lead to our ability to make replicas of human beings, it came to the general will for the beings to be cloned to be of figures of our past. Most notably include members of the Nazi Germany government, personalised on the will of the parodies of the Downfall film, who have proven to have set themselves on a path what appears to be of redemption. If case be of fruit then it can be argued that the purpose of this political (and comedic) form of cloning may have root in leader engineering as a purpose of setting dark control of regions. Whether a plot of conspiracy, a plan of humour or just simple cause of chaos it can be argued that a peace settlement might have been formed from this to ensure security. The period will be one of note.

In the year 3000 one of those Downfall members, Fegelein, got himself elected as leader of the democratic socialist power.

We must turn our attention though to Russia. Two Stalin appeared but Mandatum will focus on the USSR, where the Stalin that appeared seems to be… set in another line then the one in Greater Georgia. We calculate that this Stalin was not on purpose of the possibly plot of the Downfall conspiracy but an independent plot of ensuring what is the resurrection of the Stalinist USSR in a phoenix like manner. Let now we issue recent development of another clone, this time of Hitler who appears to be of serious in contrast to the comedic (and redeemed) version holding out in Madagascar. We could question how the USSR ended up in a second Russian front World War Two in formation as a civil war but we issue of another note: this occurred as the world was economic turning its back on the USSR in response to the recent aggression. As written Mandatum base medic Doctor Alexia Rojo in a public letter to the General Director:

It appears that we in a crisis of conspiracies. Plots within plots and plans within plans are being issued. The USSR had already been a member of the so called “Cloning Madness” that my fellow Mandatum scientists have come up with but this suggest a power struggle not in line of power politics but of a test. I sense someone who wants Stalin to rule again has decided to reshape the USSR as a means of increasing its power by “removing the negative elements.” I smell a plot brewing. It appears Mandatum is facing a fellow shadow opposition but this is not simply the BNP; we are in war with a puppeteer.

We of Mandatum have possible running on a theory but we will run with it. The theory will be proven or disproven. In the mean time we need to investigate the possible cloning in full detail; this technology could aid our interests.

We are Mandatum. We are the unseen eyes.
 
Alliance offer to UoC. Do ya accept?
 
Umm... umm... umm...

Oh jeez.

Hit me up with the details in private and we can talk about it. :p

Spoiler Dialoglog :
HITLER: He does realize we're not, strictly speaking, the ruling characters, right?
FEGELEIN: Does it make a difference? Look at Somalia.
CHUKOV: Bunch of deceitful hypocrites. Note their tariffs.
GORDON: ...
BURGDORF: Well-spoken, Kamerad.
 
The Second Third Reich

We have browsed through Soviet records and none make references to Stalin undergoing any sort of cloning procedure.
 
Russia searches for bases in the USSR - success. 2 Mandatum bases found.

Search for bases in Crimea - 1 Mandatum base found.

Incite Riots in USSR - fail

Coup in Crimea - failure

Coup in Crimea - failure.

Coup in Siberia - failure.

Coup in Mongolia - failure

Coup in Airstrip One - failure

Steal from USSR - success. 2% lost. Attacker nets 14 gold.

Steal from Empire of China - success. A factory is blown up and corporate vaults looted. 2% of China's industry knocked out. 6 gold to attacker.

Steal from the Chinese Union - failure. Super Agent was involved.

Steal from America - failure

Steal plans from Katterland - failure.

Steal USSR plans - failure

Steal plans from Empire of China - failure

Coup in Philippine Republic - failure
 
Dammit. If we found who stole our money and tried to steal our plans, we are going to impale him, cut his head and feed him to the dogs!
 
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