NiGHTS: Bug Reports
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markusbeutel
NiGHTS
Nice find - I've never seen a barb Phalanx yet in my games - this will be fixed for v11.5.
It seems that the random civilization feature is broken, I seem to always get alexander greeks every time I star the game up.
Also, it seems that I'm not switching civs at all as my swordsmen did not switch to samurai when I was playing as oda nobunaga (japan) and my spearmen were called phalanx.
Other than that, it's a great mod so far! good job markusbeutel!
Also, it seems that I'm not switching civs at all as my swordsmen did not switch to samurai when I was playing as oda nobunaga (japan) and my spearmen were called phalanx.
Other than that, it's a great mod so far! good job markusbeutel!
markusbeutel
NiGHTS
Thanks Juxe.
Did you follow the complete manual install instructions? If not, strange bugs like this will show up, (for all major mods). Make sure to delete your cache folder, clear the contents of your ModUserData folder, delete old versions of the mod, disable other mods, and verify your cache through stream.This should fix all of your problems.
yoho,
today i've played my favourite kind of game, that is on the lowest difficulty and normal speed, second smallest terrain - pangea and only one enemy -> its just like build your empire sandbox. [on nights 1.14]
The problem came about cultural revolutions. Obcviousle I got the first one. But then, neither of us could gain even a single point of cultural breakthrough even up to the very end of time, when I had five cities with all wonders (each city had some wonders) and all buildings built, and had cultural production of some 1000, even then I couldn't get enough points to go through 'loyalists' negative bonus. I guess there should be either lower cap on 1 point every turn towards 'cultural breakthough' or the loyalists should have upper cap based on the current number of breakthrough. [e.g. second breakthrough shouldn't get more conservatist negative bonus, then let's say 1000 or 1500]
also, I did notice that all my automated workers were building almost onlytrade posts/tax posts even though I had infinite amounts of money and could use hammers or food way better.
Also when switching to 'focus on growth' all people work around the city which is cool, but then noone goes to special buildings and everyone becomes unemployed citizen wasting the possibilites given by city structures.
*some of the names could be wrong since I play Polish language version and had to translate them
today i've played my favourite kind of game, that is on the lowest difficulty and normal speed, second smallest terrain - pangea and only one enemy -> its just like build your empire sandbox. [on nights 1.14]
The problem came about cultural revolutions. Obcviousle I got the first one. But then, neither of us could gain even a single point of cultural breakthrough even up to the very end of time, when I had five cities with all wonders (each city had some wonders) and all buildings built, and had cultural production of some 1000, even then I couldn't get enough points to go through 'loyalists' negative bonus. I guess there should be either lower cap on 1 point every turn towards 'cultural breakthough' or the loyalists should have upper cap based on the current number of breakthrough. [e.g. second breakthrough shouldn't get more conservatist negative bonus, then let's say 1000 or 1500]
also, I did notice that all my automated workers were building almost onlytrade posts/tax posts even though I had infinite amounts of money and could use hammers or food way better.
Also when switching to 'focus on growth' all people work around the city which is cool, but then noone goes to special buildings and everyone becomes unemployed citizen wasting the possibilites given by city structures.
*some of the names could be wrong since I play Polish language version and had to translate them
Kirschi
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Hi
Played two games with v11.4 and all in all it is great, I like most of the changes. The Techtree and Buildings got quite a few changes which confused me sometimes
I had some issues in my game and got some questions. Here are my notes, I hope they are clear...
Keep up the good work 
I got tired of CiV before but with your mod its fun again
Played two games with v11.4 and all in all it is great, I like most of the changes. The Techtree and Buildings got quite a few changes which confused me sometimes
I had some issues in my game and got some questions. Here are my notes, I hope they are clear...
Spoiler issues/questions :
I got tired of CiV before but with your mod its fun again
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markusbeutel
NiGHTS
A screen resolution problem unfortunately and not a bug. Try increasing your resolution if you can - otherwise, you should still be able to scroll with a mouse scrollwheel.
Hi
Played two games with v11.4 and all in all it is great, I like most of the changes. The Techtree and Buildings got quite a few changes which confused me sometimes
I had some issues in my game and got some questions. Here are my notes, I hope they are clear...
Keep up the good workSpoiler issues/questions :
I got tired of CiV before but with your mod its fun again
1. The Circus bug is legit... I accidentally listed the prereq twice - will be fixed in this weekend's update.
2. Apostolic Palace is buildable, but it goes obsolete with Liberalism, so if you've already researched that, it won't show up in the build queue.
3. This would be some sort of mod conflict, (manual install steps + disabling other mods should fix the problem). Maps shouldn't be causing this as I don't alter anything regarding them...
4. None of the UB's have descriptions at this point, just a help tool-tip. These will be added once custom artwork is completed for them.
5. All quirky tech requirements like this one, (and all others in the mod), will be made clear in v11.5, as the tech tree itself is going through a bit of an overhaul.
6. Not sure about the production display - certain bonuses must not be taken into account, although I can't say for sure which ones they would be.
7. Ishtar Gate requires a Castle, (and it obsoletes with Communism). This is in the tool-tip.
8. Everyone is able to build the Magna Carta once.
9. As far as I know, CS's don't take requirements into account - although you can still build the AP in other Cities that don't restrict it's prereqs.
10. Botched tool-tip on my part - will be fixed.
11. Rival Territory Icon bug will be fixed for the next update as well.
12. I'll look into this, haven't experienced it yet myself.
13. Workers do improve old improvements with the advanced versions, (the AI does as well). Their strength lays in where you build them. On top of mined resources, they double the output, so on mined Iron, A Manufactory would give +8 production and +2 science, which is pretty good - especially considering you can build as many as you want, (depending on your resource allocation).
Customs Houses also double the yield of a Trading Post, and give and extra +1 gold when adjacent to a City. If you have 20 of these alone - that's a lot of extra gold...
Thanks for the feedback, (and the pics - always helps).
You're the second person to mention this, and I think I've isolated the problem. It should be fixed for v11.5
As for automated Workers, they don't take your economy or anything about your current game into account. They merely build the best possible improvement for any given tile. What I can do is limit trading post / Customs House spam by limiting them to flatlands - this way the AI will be forced to either build mines or farms on hills. (Will be included in v11.5).
Also, the City Governor is terribad in CIV V, (just like automated Workers) - best to avoid them altogether if possible.
Kirschi
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I just have Infoaddict and IGE, maybe IGE but I never had problems with that one before (let alone that problem with the captured Citystates).
Ahh.. I'm so sorry for all those "goes obsolete/requirements" non-issues I listed. Somehow the "going obsolete" thing feels much more present in NiGHTS. I never thought about that or experienced it that much before I played your mod.8. Everyone is able to build the Magna Carta once.
I think most of the buildings go obsolete too fast. In later Eras research time is only 5-7 turns and when the obsolete tech comes already two to three columns later, thats just not enough time, for Wonders at least (in my opinion/play style at least).
Well, my workers do not seem to like me ^^ In late game, after I manually built most of the improvements and already built some Manufactories on some strategic points, I set my workers to automatic and those little ... replaced all of my Manufactories with standard Mines etc. They downgraded everything
EDIT:
Hmm yes, but at the point I am able to build Custom Houses, Gold really is a non-issue for me. I am glad if I can spend all of it
MonkSami
Chieftain
great mod indeed and thanks for taking your precious time to keep on making it better...
just a tiny little thing i have noticed...(using latest version)
when you have built this wonder that gives you +200% influence with all city states ( pergamon altar?) it makes angry city states even angrier with you even though i believe the wonder is supposed to strenghten relationships?!
works fine in the positive spectrum, but obviously not with the negative....
and what about the "embassy"? this building was listed as a requirement for the magna charta and some other wonder as well according to civiliopedia... do you acquire it automatically when you have researched a specific technology or chosen a specific government? obviously, i could never build it at any point..
just a tiny little thing i have noticed...(using latest version)
when you have built this wonder that gives you +200% influence with all city states ( pergamon altar?) it makes angry city states even angrier with you even though i believe the wonder is supposed to strenghten relationships?!
works fine in the positive spectrum, but obviously not with the negative....
and what about the "embassy"? this building was listed as a requirement for the magna charta and some other wonder as well according to civiliopedia... do you acquire it automatically when you have researched a specific technology or chosen a specific government? obviously, i could never build it at any point..
markusbeutel
NiGHTS
Didn't know that about the Pergamon Altar - interesting
- I'll include this info in the tool-tip for now. As for the embassy - it's a free building you get whenever you adopt a Government (it grants many of the Government bonuses), and it can't actually be built because of this.MonkSami
Chieftain
it also happens when you adopt "republic"...
markusbeutel
NiGHTS
Yep - every government spawns embassies in all of your cities. It's a free building that lasts as long as the government is active and gives you that government's specific bonuses. I'll make sure to list this in the drop-down tool-tip for governments in future updates. Not a bug by any means.
technomancer
Chieftain
My current (fresh, I deleted cache etc. as usual) 11.5 game reproducibly crashes between turn 74 and 75 (both DX9 and DX11 binary).
I did not change anything (windows, drivers, patches etc.) since playing with 11.4 which worked perfectly fine so I assume this might have something to do with 11.5.
Nights is the only mod I have activated btw.
If someone is interested to double-check, this is the save (turn 74):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9t5f0v
Regards,
techno
I did not change anything (windows, drivers, patches etc.) since playing with 11.4 which worked perfectly fine so I assume this might have something to do with 11.5.
Nights is the only mod I have activated btw.
If someone is interested to double-check, this is the save (turn 74):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9t5f0v
Regards,
techno
markusbeutel
NiGHTS
I'll take a look - thanks for the save.
technomancer
Chieftain
Thx Markus.
This is turn 73 btw which has been the last non-crashing turn
http://www.sendspace.com/file/znnrar
This is turn 73 btw which has been the last non-crashing turn
http://www.sendspace.com/file/znnrar
markusbeutel
NiGHTS
Hmm - I can't seem to load your save as it requires DLC I don't have. This means you probably have the Ancient Wonders pack installed and activated which is most likely causing bugs (as it's the one DLC not supported to be begin with). Try disabling that and then give it another go.
Just a warning that your save might not work with v11.51 that I just released.
technomancer
Chieftain
I disabled the ancient wonders pack but - as expected - the game still crashes.
Since I play nights (and I played dozens of games) I always had this pack installed and it never caused any problems at all.
So I stick with my original theory, this is a problem with 11.5.
Regards,
techno
Since I play nights (and I played dozens of games) I always had this pack installed and it never caused any problems at all.
So I stick with my original theory, this is a problem with 11.5.
Regards,
techno
markusbeutel
NiGHTS
Have you manually checked your mods folder to see if anything strange is going on in there? (This would be random files with long names - basically corrupted files that didn't install correctly).
technomancer
Chieftain
mod folders is clean and the nights folder looks perfectly normal.
Strangely, with 11.52 the save does not crash anymore (I double-checked and reinstalled 11.51 and it crashes - again).
Very odd, but well, the result matters
Great incarnation of NIGHTS btw, the best ever in terms of balance.
Strangely, with 11.52 the save does not crash anymore (I double-checked and reinstalled 11.51 and it crashes - again).
Very odd, but well, the result matters
Great incarnation of NIGHTS btw, the best ever in terms of balance.
