It has been three years since I finished this great adventure the first time. I think I have improved immensely in this game. Civ IV is out and played by many - not me. For my amusement I have decided to try it again.
I'd really like to see how Zerksees can handle this in C3C 1.15, without the palace/FP exploit.
The variant here is that I will not move the capital - period.
My goal is to win and finish sooner than I did with the first attempt.
This time I think I will leave the governor off for a while.
Looking at CRPmapstat, I see that we have iron, saltpeter and horses to sell.
590 AD
Increase science % to complete
theology in 1.
I see some trad opportunities, but I think I'll be better off finishing the theology and trading for what's next.
MM all the cities
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Did not MM well as two riot.
600 AD
Change setting to notify if cities riot, also to wait at end of turn
Set science at 0%
Buy
chemistry from France for 75 gold and 22 gpt
Buy
education and terr map from Arabs for chemistry
Buy
metallurgy,
printing press, 8 gold and terr map from England for saltpeter
Buy
banking from Egypt for metallurgy
Buy
military tradition, furs and terr map from Russia for horses, 23 gpt and 10 gold
Buy
astronomy, 5 gold from Mongols for military tradition
MM cities - gold up to +8 gpt, switch some builds to banks as we need money
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Germans DOW France
610 AD
Buy
physics from Egypt for mil trad and 14 gold (I have 9 more techs than 590 AD)
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Mongols building Smiths - this is good as we are not that far behind
620 AD
Disband a few warriors. Even though I am playing this C3C, republic charges 1 gpt per unit just like PTW. Decide to keep unit count around 80 for a while. Will disband units as better units are built.
Some workers, settlers, muskets and samurai are coming out.
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India building universal suffrage
630 AD
Claimed ivory from Russia with a settler on the border.
640 AD
Do the Arabs a favor. Buy
navigation, music theory and 5 gold for physics and metallurgy
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France completes Smiths, and the wonder cascades happen
650 AD
Mongols lack magnetism
Buy
magnetism from England paying 84 gold and 32 gpt
Buy
theory of gravity from Mongols paying magnetism and 2 gpt
Japan enters industrial ages. I notice some tech disparities but we have nothing to trade to take advantage
Buy
world map and 16 gold from Egypt paying theory of gravity and magnetism
Buy
economics and world map from Arabs for magnetism. World maps are cheap all of a sudden
660 AD
not much, workers busy
670 AD
Japan at +2 gpt with 45 gold in the kitty. Paying 79 gpt for unit maint and 79 gpt to other civs
Builds so far are workers, settlers, markets, banks, and some military units. I put a granary in the capital where I plan to build unit -> worker -> unit -> worker to help beef up the worker population
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Rome and Germany MA vs France. I think briefly about joing a war to get something, but take no action.
Session 2:
680 AD
Disband 6 units - regular spears
690 AD
We have 23 workers plus a couple slave workers. This should cover the 10-11 cities we have quite well.
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Challenge #1: Mongols demand territory map and 18 gold. After much debate I give it in hopes they will DOW someone else
700 AD - not much
710 AD
Found city of zerksees in the southeast grabbing an extra iron from Germany
720 AD
Buy
steam power from China, paying ivory, 119 gold and 47 gpt
Buy
medicine and terr map from Englad giving steam power
Buy
democracy, world map, 41 gold paying medicine
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Russia completes Universal Suffrage. Wonders cascade.
Kyoto riots due to selling ivory and not MM'ing the cities
730 AD
Buy wines from India for 53 gold and 6 gpt
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Wonder cascade apparently helps Germans build TOE.
740 AD
Build city named Audacity in the north taking a few more tiles from Russia
750 AD
I want to buy sanitation from America. I decide it is optional tech and I can't use it now anyway, so I hold off. I'll save my tech lead on them to buy something else.
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Challenge #2: America demands steam power.
I give it but their fate is sealed.
760 AD - nothing much
770 AD
Start lone scientist gambit - on nationalism. I would like to draft units if needed
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France and Germany make peace
The people love zerksees and expand the palace
780 AD
Found Coal City, taking coal tile from Germany
790 AD
Arabs have
nationalism. This is significant because they will take medicine, steam power and military tradition in trade for it. Done deal.
800 AD
Turn 21 of the 2nd attempt
We are at +77 gpt as our early gpt deals end. We also have some resource/lux to trade.
Buy Electricity from England paying 180 gold, saltpeter and 21 gpt
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23 gpt for furs deal is up with Russia. Start a new deal - buy
replaceable parts and furs paying horses, 8 gold and 69 gpt. What AI in their right mind would sell me Replaceable Parts at any price?
810 AD
We have rubber.
Buy
industrialization and world map from America paying Electricity
Buy the
corporation,
free artistry, world map, 17 gold and 1 gpt from England paying replaceable parts
Coal is now attached and the railroading begins. I am getting dangerous already
Been disbanding units as new units are built.
Now we need some more embassies starting with our neighbors
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Some cannon builds were switched to artillery and have completed!
820 AD
Starting to seriously size up opponents. America and Russia lack coal so there will be less of a surge. It is really a no brainer though as America has a very small border with us, plus they are stinking extortionists!
A golden age awaits.
Build embassy in Washington for 59 gold
830 AD
Suddenly German troops appear in the southeast. Hope they are not gunning for Japan
All these techs mean cities need more infrastructure. Some are starting stock exchanges. I am quite sure Charlemagne did not have to worry about stock exchanges.
840 AD
Cities are close, all are now connected by rail.
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Challenge #3: Germans come demanding territory map and 21 gold. I am glad to give this because it is a sign they are about to make war. Bismarck makes some comment about boot-licker. Sticks and stones...
To prove me right, Germany immediately DOW's America
850 AD
No cities change hands that I can see. German troops are starting to clog up my roads
Spend 92 gold to establish embassy in Moscow
860 AD
Our military is still quite weak. This game I need shields now more than anything - need to build some infantry and artillery. With replaceable parts, techs can be secondary for a while. I need gold to upgrade units and rush improvements as many cities are busy with basic infrastructure like aqueducts, markets, banks, factories, etc.
Right now I need some land, and I think we are going to get it at the expense of the Americans. I am going to muster all the free units and go after Baltimore. There is a lone Egyptian city north of there that I also plan to take soon.
Took a sneak peek at the first attempt, and noticed the old zerksees did not get steam until 990 AD and repl parts not until 1120 AD.
Session 3:
Preparing road to America
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Russia and Germany MA vs. America
870AD
DOW America. Move stack of 15 units on border of Baltimore: 2 cats, 1 infantry, 2 longbow, 2 sword, 8 samurai
880AD
Launch all the arty exc 1. Launch attack.
Had a victorious samurai triggering the golden age, and a few elite promotions. Took out 2 rifles and 3 spears, costing 1 infantry, 2 LB, 1 sword, 2 samurai [5-6]. Baltimore is razed and we get 4 slave workers
Knock off American longbow in German territoty [6-6]
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Germans and Indians start Hoover Dam
890 AD
DOW Egypt. Asyut has a rifle and musket, and their forbidden palace
Upgrade a couple units
New Baltimore is founded
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Mongols and Germans MPP - Mongols DOW America
We can build Iron Works
Germans failed planting a spy on us
Americans drop 4 nights outside New Baltimore
900 AD
Attack the 4 knights - redline with arty. Use elite samurai to defeat the first and get a leader. Immediately convert to an army. Use second elite sam on the second one and get another leader! Immediately convert. Use elite sam on third to defeat it - no leader. [9-6]
Form a samurai army and move in position next to Asyut
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Fortified sam in New Baltimore holds off American cav [10-6]
England and Germany MA vs. America
910 AD
Take Asyut from Egypt defeating a rifle and musket with artillery and our army. It is size 2 so we keep it. [12-6]
Need more units to fill second army.
Session 4
Game time is up to 7 hrs 58 minutes
Yikes we are behind in tech.
Buy
steel from India for 488 gold and 57 gpt
Buy
refining from England for steel + 16 gpt
Buy
combustion from Russia for 102 gpt
Buy
scientific method, 5 gpt, 135 gold, world map from England paying combustion
Buy
espionage,
sanitation, 3 gpt, 30 gold, WM from Mongols paying electricity and refining
Buy
communism and WM from Arabs paying electricity
Behind atomic theory and mass production to India, China and Germany. Behind AT to Russia and France
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Rome and Germans sign MPP
Lost a worker to Egyptian cav - they must have ROP with China
Out comes the powerful nations of the world list. We are not on it. St. Augustine better rethink his list
920AD
Found Toyama as a roadway to Cincinnati.
Defeat a rifle, a pike and a spear and Cinn is razed. +5 workers
Knock off three invading Egyptian cavs [6-2]
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Lost New Baltimore to America cavs - it autorazed. We are paper thin still and this proves it
Lost a couple other units in the open [6-6]
930 AD
Had to increase lux to 10%
Defeat a lone egypt cav
Getting our units in position for Houston
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Renew wines with Gandhi for 18gpt
Germans take Houston
940 AD
Whack 3 more Egyptian cavs
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China and Russia MA vs America
Lost an infantry to Egyptian cavs
Germans complete Hoover Dam
950 AD
See no value in further attack on America. Make peace and collect San Diego
Sign ROP with China for 25 gold
Defeat musket and rifle and Giza is razed. +5 workers
Take three more Egyptian cavs in the open [15-7]
960 AD
moving on the next city
somewhere in here found a city on German border to grab dyes
Disconnect Egyptian horses to stop the cavalry flow
970 AD
razed another Egyptian city defeating two rifles and one musket. [18-7] 3 free workers IIRC
place replacement city on same spot and we have incense.
Buy
flight from Gandhi for 82 gpt and 585 gold
Buy
mass production, 5 gold, 15 gpt, WM from England paying flight
Buy
atomic theory from France paying flight, 20 gold and 10 gpt
What next? Well I am way ahead of the last game. I think I'll separate Egypt from more or all of their core of cities.
Still in golden age. Need to expand quickly.
Tech pace is super fast for regent and I am not sure if we can keep up. Our defense still has a lot of pikes and I can see the Chinese have radar towers. In this game conquest is the only way out so no worries about space ships or UN votes. I'll just keep slugging.
Session 4 ended (though it was more than one sitting)
Session 5
Founded Echizen and Bizen in Egypts lands on their city ruins
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sam defeat cav
Kyoto finishes heroic epic
extra luxes bring WLTKD in several cities
980 AD
Notice many civs now have electronics
Moving on Hiercanopolis
990 AD
Defeat musket, spear and longbow and Hiercanopolis is ours. Its small so it stays [3-0]
1000 AD
Defeat two rifles and Heliopolis is ours [5-0]
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India and Russia sign MPP
Buy furs from Russia for 30 gpt
Double palace expansion
1010 AD
Spot former American oil resource. Working to get a settler down there ASAP. To help speed this up, I sign ROP w/Germans for 6 gpt
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Rome and India MA vs Arabs
Germany and Rome MA vs Arabs
China and Egypt embargo against us. Very weak Cleo.
1020 AD
Samurais defeat rifle and musket (oh yeah w/arty suppt) and Elephantine is ours [7-0]. We keep it, +2 workers inside.
Defeat lone cav on a mountain.
Lost an infantry but defeat rifle, musket and cav taking Alexandria. [11-1] We keep it and there are +3 workers inside. We are deep in the core and Egyptian prospects are dim.
IBT
England and America make peace
India and Russia MA vs America
1030 AD
Defeat 2 rifle, pike and spear and Thebes is razed. +4 workers IIRC. Both samurai armies are at work here. [15-1]
Put a settler on the spot to rebuild next turn
Buy
electronics from Gandhi for saltpeter and 41 gpt
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Russia DOW Arabs
Russian tanks appear, spot first German mech inf
Egypt last gasp - cavalry defeats our cav in a the open [15-2]
1040 AD
Buy
radio from France paying incense, 69 gpt, 500 gold
Buy
motorized transportation, 59 gold, 6 gpt from England paying radio
We are in the modern era.
Create a cav army from the third leader
Attack Memphis. Lost a cav defeating 2 rifles a musket and a longbow [19-3]. We take and keep the size 5 city
Attack Byblos. There is only one spearman. He loses and the city is razed +4 workers. [20-3]
Egypt has lost their core and down to 2 cities. I take one - Abydos - in the peace treay along with 14 gold and WM. Too many AI between us and them to finish Egpyt now.
Cut lux to 0% and MM cities.
1050 AD
Not much
Officially lose track of the session counts I have been using
1060 AD
Armies healing
Notice on IBT that Germans and China are building SETI
1070 AD
The golden age ends soon so better get some trades going while gpt is still up:
Buy
rocketry from Russia for 165 gpt
Buy
ecology from France for rocketry and 11 gpt
Buy
computers, amphibious war, 4 gold and WM from England for rocketry and ecology
Sell atomic theory to Rome for 7gpt, 30 gold, wm
Sell electronics to Mongols for 5 gpt and 14 gold
Sell the corporation to Arabs for spices, 43 gold, wm
Sell refining to America for 12 gold + wm
Upgrade a couple inf to mech inf
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complete Wall St.
America and Russia make peace
France and Russia start SETI
Trade expires - decide to get a cash advance from Ganndhi - pay 100 gpt for 1800 gold
1080 AD
Golden Age ends
Suddenly we are at -77 gpt
Buy embassy in India for 146 gold
Since the war with America is over I have been thinking about who is next. This turn I am sizing up Russia.
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America is destroyed by China. One down.
Egypt and Russia MA vs Arabs
1090 AD
All of a sudden we are at -277 gpt. So the golden age really ended this turn
Still building
IBT
dogpile on Arabs as France and India MA, as do China and Germany
See some German modern armor. On regent at 1090 AD!
1100 AD
Quiet
1110 AD
Spent 15 hrs and 46 mins so far
Score is 448, chasing Egypt at 544, Arabs at 678 and everyone else above that (Last game my score was 440 at 1250 AD)
Deficit of 74 gpt, but still have 1282 gold in the kitty
1120-1190 AD
Laziness kicks in and I quit doing turn log each turn. Decided to go after Russia next. Also thinking no new gpt deals exc China in case I want a MPP with them
Lock in plan to crush Russia next. Start preparations
renew ROP with China.
Mongols DOW Russia in 1160 AD
England signs MPP with India and Germany
1200 AD
Arabs are destroyed. Two down. And I had nothing to do with this one
Afer several attempts planted a spy in Russia, did not start the war
1230 AD
Finally ROP is up with Russa. I issue remove or declare and she declares
Germany gladly accepts 42 gpt for MA vs Russia
China also accepts 36 gpt for MA vs Russia
India gives spices, wines and 500 gold for saltpeter
We are sporting 16 tanks, 32 mech inf, 10 cav and 25 arty
Start with Rostov - southern most core Russian city. Use arty and tanks to take Rostov. Defeat 1 inf under radaer tower, then 2 MA and 2 inf. Let the razing begin
IBT
Counter attacks cost us one tank and one MI, Russia loses half a dozen units
Double palace expand
1240 AD
Had to abandon size 2-3 Abydos (city I took from Egypt in peace deal), since Russians appeared right outside the door and there are no units to defend it.
Lost an elite samurai and three tanks defeating 1 MA, 2 inf, 2 Cossack. Krasnoyarsk is razed.
Can't reach Egypt anytime soon. Want them gone. Sign MA with Rome vs Egypt's OCC. Caesar can take care of it.
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Egypt and China MA vs Russia
Russia has 4-5 bombers pestering us
1250 AD
Notice we are ahead of Egypt in score
Decide to take Boston from the Russians so Germans don't get it. Lost 3-4 tanks to defeat 4 MI and a Cossack. Raze the city, gain 5 workers. Wrecked 3-4 Russian bombers inside. Replace the city with New Boston - have some settlers in inventory.
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China and Mongols sign MPP
1255 AD
Odessa had 4 MI and a MA - raze it +9 workers. New fur resources for us
Rome does their job and Egypt is dead. Three down.
1260 AD
Astrakan (on the east coast) falls - we keep it since it is on German border
Buy
fission from Mongols paying synthetic fibers, furs and 12 gpt
Another double palace expand on the IBT
No one else might care, but the electronic people love zerksees
1265 AD
Raze Sevastopol. This was size 19.
IBT
Russians nuke us! The beloved city of zerksees is subject to tactical nuke attack. The reason? It has rubber. A lone pikeman holds the fort surrounded by the nuclear fallout.
Yikes the nukes come a lot earlier this game. My guess is I got too raze happy.
The entire world declares war on Russia (maybe it was only one or two civs since she was already at war with the rest). And I can hear the nukes in the air flying to Russia in retaliation
1270 AD
Put three workers on the rubber to reconnect.
We need more workers. Take and raze Novogorod. Russians created this mess, they are going to clean it up.
Placing important units away from cities to avoid fallout if we get hit again
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More nukes in the air, I can hear them. None are directed at us.
1275 AD
Moving on St. Petersburg. It was nuked so there is only one unit in there. Easy take and we keep.
1280 AD
We take Moscow (also nuked by the AI) and Minsk. Russia down to one city. So far China has two cities from Russia and Germany has one.
1285 AD
Smolensk falls and Russia is dead. Four down:
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One AI nukes another.
India DOW China
Another palace expand
1290 AD
Buy
nuclear power from Gandhi for gold and gpt
Buy
miniaturization from Mongols paying nuclear power
Put a wall of units across gap near south of my territory to keep Germans from sending units south
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Rome and India MA vs China
Germany DOW Rome
Mongols DOW Rome
More nukes fly
1295 AD
All this peace? Well looks like Japan is the only one at peace ATM
Could China be next?
IBT
Germany and Mongols DOW India
1300 AD
Trade with India - get a
tech, give lux and gpt (can't recall what we got)
Buy
smart weapons, 737 gold and 27 gpt from China for uranium
IBT
Do not renew ROP with China
1305 AD IBT
More nukes fly
I think I put a spy in China here
1310 AD
We have 56 MI, 18 MA, 38 arty, 6 bomber, and misc.
Issue remove or declare on China, and they declare war on us
China has 33 MA and 4 tactical nukes. Will try war with them without razing cities.
Germany joins us. Give them integrated defense, collect 2381 gold and 20 gpt in the exchange
Opening volley: Defeat four MA in the open, then take Ningpo (at SW corner of Japan's territory) and raze it. Also take Tientsin and raze it - collect 13 workers, 2 arty and a crusie missile.
At 650 in score we are ahead of Arabs and Egypt and presumably will get ahead of the free falling Russians and Americans.
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Rome and India MA vs France
Another Tientsin is founded near the old one, though this one is a lot smaller
Skirmishing cost them a MA, and us a few MI and a couple cavs
Mongols DOW Germany
1315 AD
China in anarchy
Take Riga in the north, eliminating China's only possible source of uranium
1320 AD
Take Xinjian and Macao
IBT
Nukes fly but not against us
Germans wreck the newer Tientsin
1325 AD
Sell smart weapons to England collecting stealth and WM. Doubt she'll have it long
Capture Kaifeng - took out a Chinese tactical nuke
IBT
Mongols land a pike and a spear in the north. Scary - not.
France DOW Germany
1330 AD
Take Anyang and whack another tactical nuke. They have two left
Take Tsingtao and we own Newton's University. Too bad we are not researching anything
IBT
More nukes going off
Get ROP with India. Will need that later
Do not renew ROP with Germany
1335 AD
Vladivostok taken. China no longer has a presence north of Japanese territory, simplifying defense
IBT
More nukes fly. Presume AI's have SDI and most are not getting through
1340 AD
England has 1 city left. Give integrated defense, get genetics, WM and 7 gold
China finally emerges from their anarchy into communism
Sell aluminum to France for 450 gpt. A deal I could not refuse.
Capture Tatung and Shanghai. 5 free arty in Shanghai
IBT
Lost two lux and could not renew. Lots of cities riot
1345 AD
Capture Yangchow and Shantung. We get another leader who is promptly converted to MA army.
Chengdu falls to our armies. We have Leonardos. China has 5 cities left
IBT
Rampaging Indians eliminate England. 5 down
More nukes fly
1350 AD
Defense is stacked 10 high in Beijing. No matter, we wreck them all and take the city, acquiring SETI. China on the ropes big time but still have a couple tactical nukes left. We will finish SDI soon.
IBT
More nukes fly
Mongols and Germans make peace
India and Germans make peace
1355AD
Hangchow falls and we get 410 gold
IBT
more nukes fly - mostly every IBT now.
Germany DOW Mongols
1360 AD
We are running a -149 gpt deficit atm
Working on Paoting
Try careful steal from China for 3956 gold. It fails
1365 AD
Finally take Paoting and raze it netting 532 gold
Canton falls. Collect 770 gold and raze the city
Chinan falls. Collect 700+ gold.
Why are they not dead? Argh China has Coventry on the other continent. The nuke must be on a sub!
IBT
Renew furs for silks trade with India paying 170 gold. With a deficit I could not do gpt.
1370 AD
Mao also owns London now. What the ?
Better get some boats and get over there
IBT
Mongol and India make peace
Rome and China make peace
Rome DOW China again!?
China launches their nuke against us but our superior SDI stops it. Some city with aluminum was targeted
1375 AD
Sell fission to Rome for 673 gold
Sell off any libraries I can find. We are not using them
IBT
Rampaging Indians finally finishes off China. Six AI are dead (America, Arab, Egypt, Russia, England, China).
India DOW Germany
Gandhi caught trying to steal our troop movement plans
1380 AD
We are number 8 in score ahead of America, England, Arabs and Egypt
IBT
India and France make peace
1385 AD
Germany is next. Start preparations
Give up on MM. Put governor on in all cities
10 turns left on ROP with Germans
Lots of Chinese citizens resisting. Putting in some military police to calm them
We are #1 in population, GNP, mfg, productivity, #2 in annual income and #3 in land
IBT
St. Augustine recognizes us as the most powerful nation. Last time we were not even on his worthless list. Better switch to communism so I can suppress that free press
1390 AD
Is there any doubt I can win this? Not in my mind. But methinks I'll play a little longer. Germans will be a moderate challenge, and taking down India will be some work. If I were Gandhi I'd think twice about giving me a ROP.
The rest are cleanup.