Russian alliance with Nazis? Riiiiight.their Cold War era misconceptions and propaganda, debunked long ago
Yeah...Russian alliance with Nazis? Riiiiight.
And this, children, is why we take a dim view of the idea of "spheres of influence".The secret part of the pact was a protocol that established Soviet and German spheres of influence in eastern Europe. It recognized Estonia, Latvia, and Bessarabia as falling within the Soviet sphere. The signatories agreed to divide Poland along the line of the Narev, Vistula and San Rivers.
If you consider Poland, which signed non-aggression pact with Germany and then split Czechoslovakia with it, as becoming allied with Nazi Germany, then sure.
Playing a little fast and loose with the history. I wouldn't call the Hitler-Stalin pact an alliance, but that's still different from Poland signing a non-aggression treaty with Germany four years before making the demands on Czechoslovakia, not as a secret protocol in tandem with the Munich conference. Poland had also signed a non-aggression pact with the USSR that was upheld about as well as the one they had signed with Germany.If you consider Poland, which signed non-aggression pact with Germany and then split Czechoslovakia with them, as becoming allied with Nazi Germany, then sure.
If that was the root of the issue, there were many more who allied with the nazisRussian alliance with Nazis? Riiiiight.
Indeed, USSR was the fourth Axis Power and Nazi Germany ally.
Let's create alt-history thread, to discuss what could happen if USSR was fighting on the US/British side.
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Close enough 1939-41.Indeed, USSR was the fourth Axis Power and Nazi Germany ally.
Let's create alt-history thread, to discuss what could happen if USSR was fighting on the US/British side.
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As Churchill put in in discussion with Swedish diplomats in 1940: "The last thing we want is another casualty."Sweden itself had no issue supplying nazi Germany with critical raw materials. Although at least it never sided with it openly.
When you have two monstrous regimes, it is hard to do anything noble, though.
As Churchill put in in discussion with Swedish diplomats in 1940: "The last thing we want is another casualty."
What do you actually know about WWII except snark?
It might be interesting for me as a Russian to participate in discussion about Russia's contribution to art and culture, as well as science and technology.I don’t know how much a discussion is ever fruitful, but at least it’s interesting. With regards to my personal feelings, I have admiration for Russia as a civilization for its contributions to art and culture, not withstanding the areas of politics.
Neo-byzantine architecture is interesting too ^^It might be interesting for me as a Russian to participate in discussion about Russia's contribution to art and culture, as well as science and technology. But as you can see this thread turned into the usual "Russia Nazi LOL" bashing fest. Something I warned about.
What could have been the cause?It might be interesting for me as a Russian to participate in discussion about Russia's contribution to art and culture, as well as science and technology.
But as you can see this thread already turned into the usual "Russia Nazi LOL" bashing fest.
Nope, nothing changed much in that regard.Something seems to have happened a year ago.
A bit more culture mocking idiots appeared though.Tolstoyevsky and matryoshkas
Something seems to have happened a year ago.
I didn’t write those posts.But as you can see this thread already turned into the usual "Russia Nazi LOL" bashing fest. Something I warned about.
Russia (under Putin) wanted to join nato and/or Eu. They weren't allowed to. So it's not as if their plan was to create a chasm; the chasm already was there (for various reasons).I didn’t write those posts.
Regardless, I remain unconvinced there is some kind of metaphysical force that compels the West to have hostile relations with Russia.
I think going over the last twenty years, all of which when Putin was in government, it has been a push from Moscow to move further away from the friendlier period of relations of the late Gorbachev-Yeltsin era.