Solange and Jay-Z: it's simply not the same if a man is hit by a woman

[Quackers]

From the Guardian, "the world's leading Liberal voice", apparently.

A few days ago in the murky celebrity world there was an incident. Jay-Z's sister in law attacked him in a lift. There is footage here.

However, in my first link a Guardian columnist and self-proclaimed feminist has sought to downplay this. Her motivations are quite clear. Nothing can detract from the view that men are always the perpetrators of violence and woman are always the victims.

So surely all violence must be equally treated with contempt correct? I believe violence is equally wrong whether your victim is bigger and stronger than you. You do not get extra moral credit by making yourself the underdog in a fight. Our brave feminist author, disagrees:

However, even unprotected, would Jay-Z have felt under genuine physical threat from his sister-in-law? Not that women should feel entitled to attack men, but this is a distinction that needs to be made. The differences in physical size and/or strength between the sexes mean that most men are simply not physically scared of most women.

Personally, a furious woman attacking me would be a frightening experience. Especially when a woman knows what a kick to the balls can do to you. However, our author knows best. A man just wouldn't be afraid if a woman attacked him! At least if a man attacks you, you have plenty of scope to fight back. If you're assaulted by a woman and fight back prepare to be backstabbed by intervening white knights like Oda Nobunaga and Senethro defending a damsel in distress. She goes on to say:

What's more, women tend to be aware of this, if only subliminally. Some females might have periods in their life when they get "slap-happy", primarily when socialising, maybe when attention seeking, usually when drunk (guilty!).

This passage is just completely bizarre. She even gleefully throws in a cutesy "guilty!" in brackets when she admits to slapping people when drunk. What a weirdo.

Anyway, her final paragraph reads like this:

This is why Solange's attack wasn't disturbing or meaningful in the same way that it would have been if she'd been attacked by a male. Ideally, no one should be attacking someone else. However, the fact that women have always had far more reason to be physically afraid of male violence, rather than vice versa, is hardly news. While female violence gets a disproportionate amount of attention, it's male violence that remains dominant.

So there you have it. Female on Male violence just isn't as meaningful as the other way around. This "feminist" does not want equality. She wants special, superior treatment for being a woman.

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I urge you to read, fully, this car crash of an article. You will get a better feel for her "arguments".

Peace out #Quacks.

 

[Tahuti]

Quackers, stop caring about that kind of stuff. Nothing is more emasculating than complaining about feminism. The only way to overcome feminism and typical fedora problems is at least to become more masculine than the feminists: You're a man, you can do it.

 

[Kyriakos]

I agree with Kaiser. It is just another braindead article. If anything it just showcases all the more that by now 'journalists' tend to be among the stupidest (and often also unethical) people around, and pretty much are reduced to leaches.

Btw i would not go near such a story also for the reason that it is about 'celebrities' (another dumb notion). They too most of the time are dumb and useless to all but their own ego.

 

[Quackers]

I can easily think of something more emasculating.
Being a man and identifying as a feminist /shudder.

Anyway, this type of nonsense needs to be rooted out and obliterated. There is already a common view in society that female specific problems are more important then male ones. It needs to stop.

 

[Senethro]

So which subreddit are you reposting this from Quackers?

 

[Tahuti]

Anyway, this type of nonsense needs to be rooted out and obliterated.

That's utopia. The best thing we can do is to ignore it.

 

[gay_Aleks]

because of course, Jay Z is the pure paragon of correctness and whatnot.

 

[Quackers]

I agree with Kaiser. It is just another braindead article. If anything it just showcases all the more that by now 'journalists' tend to be among the stupidest (and often also unethical) people around, and pretty much are reduced to leaches.

Btw i would not go near such a story also for the reason that it is about 'celebrities' (another dumb notion). They too most of the time are dumb and useless to all but their own ego.

Where do you go for top notch political writing?

When I was a child I always believed the broadsheets like the Telegraph, The Times, The Guardian would have exceptional journalism and analysis and that was the gold standard. When I've actually sat down and read these "opinion" pieces they are absolute trash.

The Economist, The Spectator can be quite good but I find them to be too narrow on what they report.

 

[Tahuti]

Where do you go for top notch political writing?

Books. Newspapers don't have an interest to give good political writing, or were even founded with that particular purpose.

 

[Kyriakos]

^Books would be my own answer too. Not just 'political' books either. Any kind of book by authors you deem as intelligent/honest and so on.

 

[Hygro]

I can easily think of something more emasculating.
Being a man and identifying as a feminist /shudder.

It's only emasculating if you feel emasculated.

 

[JollyRoger]

Link to video.

 

[Tahuti]

I can easily think of something more emasculating.
Being a man and identifying as a feminist /shudder.

Many self-identified male feminists are more male than well...

Maleness definitely isn't defined by political beliefs and is waaay more defined by praxis (a fancy term for 'doing stuff', in this case, male stuff).

 

[Kyriakos]

^"maleness", "macho", "masculine" and other such terms, are in my view very dumb cause they tend to allude to some crude image of a not very refined man. I also think that by now 'feminism' has no actual reason of existing in most of the euro societies, cause the situation renders the specific person as presenting himself or herself as a lower or higher human, both of which are just false opinions.
To try to ensure equality between male and female is a bit like trying to ensure equality between two rooms in a house. Ie it is easy or a given as long as the people are sane, and impossible if at least one of them is a jerk.