ZPNESVI: Nesse, the Chosen City

[BananaLee]

I think all elites are supposed to fight. Moneylending is just our main business aside from fighting. But yes, finances are important - especially when you want to do things like say... build city walls and new houses.
I really doubt anyone is going to risk personal finances in such endeavours, especially if they have any business acumen at all

 

[Circuit]

The Doctrine of the Challoan House

By Julii Challoan II


Our great House has been with the Nesse people for as long as the city itself existed, and as one of the oldest families to be in existence, we have come to conclusions to how the city should function and what our beliefs should be. In this day and age, ours is a decentralized city, driven by competition between the families as we push for our own agendas, which isn't so wrong if it weren't for the nature of the splintering of the city. Nesse has been greatest when our people were organized and more cooperative. We look back to the days of the Great Imperator Julii, who created a new order for Nesse after the expulsion of the tyrant king Phillon and his followers. Julii established one of the few golden ages the city of Nesse has seen, and did so through the creation of a central government in Nesse to regulate between the clans. Julii established a Senate to represent all people of Nesse, regardless of their clan, and established his rule through the Senate by making the position of Imperator a position appointed by the Senate. He divided the power over our city between the Imperator and the Senate, allowing the Senate to administer greater over Nesse's domestic affairs and limited control over foreign affairs, while the Imperator had greater control over foreign affairs and limited control over domestic affairs. Actions of the Imperator could come under inspection by the Senate, and in turn, actions of the Senate could come under the inspection of the Imperator. Through this system, the Great Imperator Julii lead Nesse to prosper more than her neighbors and handled the barbarians. It was a great golden age, one that we in the Challoan House look back to longingly.

If we are to prosper as a city and handle the barbarians, we must emulate the system created by the Great Imperator Julii. Only through a government created in the model of Julii's can we come to better our city.

Also, we in the Challoan House have kept the records of Nesse and have studied them thoroughly. Much was learned through experience, and so we feel we are in a position to say what should and should not be done. Nesse was greatest under Julii's reign. How could this be so? What was it that that the Great Imperator Julii knew that allowed him to lead Nesse into a golden age? Under Julii's reign, the position of the outlanders was elevated. Before, the outlanders struggled for survival, and many among the Nesse elite and the city inhabitants viewed them as little better than barbarians. But Julii saw outlander success as critical to the success of the rest of the cities. The merchants, the craftsmen, the warriors, in fact every Nesser and elite, depended on the raw materials provided by the outlanders for their own success; their own survival, in fact. So Julii worked to further outlander interests, including increasing outlander lands, defending outlanders from barbarians, even claiming barbarian land for the outlanders. As the outlanders brought in more materials to be used by the rest of Nesse, the city was able to expand and grow. Julii's strategy was a successful one.

We again call for a return to the strategy of the Great Imperator Julii. We should focus on increasing outlander success if we are to increase the success and the size of the rest of Nesse. This is a task that we will continually lobby for.

But what is the role of Nesse in these lands? We in the Challoan House, after observation from the beginning of Nesse, have concluded that Nessers, regardless of their class and role, are the superior race. Barbarians are weak and wallow in their own inferiority. Other civilizations have fickle, superficial successes, and will eventually fall. Nessers are to be the rulers of the land, and are to dominate the inferior races. Even the exiled supporter of the tyrant King Phillon are of superior stock to the richest man of any other city. Our city must fulfill its destiny to hegemony of our region. We may benefit from the trifling and inner disputes of the other races, even cooperating among the factions. We do not suggest that we isolate ourselves from the other inferior civilizations, for we could benefit from the trifling successes they have, along with their trade. But we must always remember our destiny and our future, and must work to attain it.

We ask that Nessers come to follow the House of the Horned King. Much insight has been gained from our study of the faith. Pagan religions have risen and fallen in this city over time, but the doctrine of the Horned King is one that is true and pure. All Nessers shall in the future face death, and will have to enter some sort of afterlife. Nessers therefore should learn how to live a lifestyle that would allow them a life in paradise rather than a life in damnation. Through study directed by the House of the Horned King, the Nessers may find that life of paradise.

These are the ways of the Challoan House. We ask that our fellow citizens consider our position, and come to accept it.

 

[Eltain]

I really doubt anyone is going to risk personal finances in such endeavours, especially if they have any business acumen at all

lol wut? it's called disposable income. wut am i supposed to do with it assassinate biggus dicchus o wait lol

IC:

To: Drezden Axmen
From: Askani House

We will need lumber soon. We'll have our people call your people.

 

[BananaLee]

Dicchus Lending House
Via Salaria
District 9
Nesse

The sigh was loud, but not loud enough for the customer in the front room to hear. Biggus Dicchus took a look at the book and shook his head, "Tell me, Sillius Soddus. Does the man outside seriously expect to get a loan of 25 coins with this rubbish as collateral?" The quiet Nessen assistant didn't reply - he knew when the patriarch was asking a rhetorical question. In fact, he agreed wholeheartedly with Biggus' assertion.
In his most humble opinion, the Challoan pamphlet was nothing but heaps of hot air put out by bumbling old politicians harking back to some Golden Age which may or may not have been that great. After all, wasn't Nesse larger now than it used to be? Wasn't it flourishing so much that the population burst at the seams ready to leave the Old city walls behind? Nonetheless, it wasn't Sillius Soddus' place to reply. He looked for adoption into the family, the only way common Nessens could rise up into the Elites. And now that he was fronting for the Dicchus lending house, he felt he was well on his way up.
"Tell the man outside that if he wants to borrow that much money, he'll need to bring something better than loo paper," Biggus Dicchus' comments shook Sillius Soddus from his reverie. He had to hide a smile at Biggus' following comment, "Call me when there's an important loan, I'm going to take a dump."

 

[Anonymoose]

To Askani House: What kind and how much?
Edit: After reading BananaLee's post, I want to lobby for a "like" button for the posts. That was hilarious.

 

[BananaLee]

lol wut? it's called disposable income. wut am i supposed to do with it assassinate biggus dicchus o wait lol

Disposable income is spent on... consumption. Not great public works.

 

[Circuit]

We'd argue that Nesse is the way it is because of Julii's reforms. Continuing with them would grow Nesse even more.

 

[BananaLee]

Shush, all this is going on in the *mind* of someone. So unless you could read their mind... Oh wait

 

[erez87]

oocthe stats are reather.. empty... I don't really know what I can do...

from Alya
to LUCAN clan
We need to get going with the sea-people's trade offer. We will support your family in trading with the sea-people's ship in return for a share of the income you will make.

to BANNER OF EAGLE clan
We need small group to defend the port while trade is commencing. We will support your clan with the equipment needed.

to LUCKIUS clan
We need to support your wine makers in order to have enough goods totrade out and make profit. We will send resources and money to help you build more vinyards and train more wine makers.

to FIDDLING clan
As soon as a trade deal is signed and we make money and resources we will send you resources for your work to continue.

to ROUGE clan
We need to buy exotic animals and such from you in order to trade it away. Will you agree?

to ROTHUNIA clan
As soon as a trade deal is stroke we will begin sending resources and money so you could farm more lands. The food shortage is horrible in the city and the people are dying.

to HOODED clan
You are needed in the city. As long as famine is destroying our precious lands we need the best of healers to make sure as few people die from disease and malnutrition and possible.

 

[Northen Wolf]

To: Moon Shadow Clan
From: The Ninticus Clan

Our Let it be known that you are not welcome in our city, and that your thieves will be caught and turned back wherever they try to enter the city. If we spot any of your clan stealing or engaging in any illegal activity in Nesse, expect harsh retribution.

From: Moon Shadow Clan
To The Ninticus Clan

We are business men and women who were too good in their trade. Now we are simply trying to survive - we fish and farm on our small island. It is not our fault that sea washes shores and brings us valuable things - we do not know who dumps valuables into the sea. We are not responsible for killings of elites - those few who do this and are caught are not even members of our clan.

We know the rules of Nessos and we follow them.

 

[BananaLee]

Commentator: And Alya takes control of the situation. Will the Gelionites or Challoan's take this sitting down? READ ON!

 

[Anonymoose]

You said that you'd prefer our orders in the thread, so here they be:
To the Askani house, we send raw lumber to aid in the construction of their fortifications or whatever they want to do with it, in exchange for monies.
To the Syncerus clan, we ask for an oxen or two to aid in stump removal, and in return, you get a good plot of land that oxen may graze upon, and is near enough to both of our residences that the oxen will be safe.
To Daft, concerning the workings of the lodge, we shall construct fortifications about the lodge, using the dense woods that the lodge itself is made of, and treated in the same manner to resist fire and rot. Also, Axmen must go out in teams of at least three at all times now to dissuade any would-be assassins from the barb tribes. We humbly ask that you make it so.

 

[TaylorFlame]

The Fire Clan believes that a strike against the Wolf Clan is necessary, but accepting their tribute before attacking will make us just as uncivilised as the barbarians themselves. We should send their envoys away, and build an invasion force as soon as possible. The Fire Clan is ready to conquer the Wolf Tribe as soon as a force has been made ready.

Also the pleas of the Red Barbarians raise a good point. We do not think that it is time to fight them yet, but the Golden Barbarians are growing in power, and soon they will need to be put down.

To: The Drezden Family
From: The Fire Clan
Your skills as foresters are of great repute. We wish to harness those skills on the battlefield. We ask of you a deal that will allow this. If you send men to help the Fire Clan in its future military endeavours, the Fire Clan will be more then happy to make the Drezden Family the sole supplier of the wood it uses for weapons, arrows, siege equipment and the likes, and will also give the Drezden Family a portion of the plunder.

To: The Hippus Clan
From: The Fire Clan
We wish to entertain with your prestigious clan a similar deal of that given to the Drezden Family. We wish for your horsemen to serve with us on campaigns, gaining glory and plunder for your clan, and if you do so, we will make you our only supplier of horses. Interested?

To: House Challoan
From: The Fire Clan
We will support your endeavours in the creation of a new Imperator.

To: Banner of Eagle
From: The Fire Clan
We in the Fire Clan see our roles as similar. We lead armies in battle, while you lead men against criminals in the battlefield that is Nesse. We propose an alliance between our two groups, in which we support eachother for a common good. We will help you police the city, while you will send men to help us when a time of war comes.

 

[Anonymoose]

Agreed. Two dozen axmen can be taken away from their duties, and the rest will be busy making the arrows and selecting the best lumber for siege weaponry.

 

[Circuit]

The opinion of House Challoan concurs with that of the Fire Clan. We ask that the Ninticus Clan (if I messed up, sorry; still learning who everyone is) turn the Wolf Clan away, then war should be declared. The Fire Clan and the (is it) Clan of the Wolves (germanicus) should then wage war against them and turn over the captured territory to the outlanders for development. Particularly, the land should be given to Syncerus and any farming clans to help alleviate the food crisis.

We have no complaints with Alya's agenda.

To: Hippus Clan
From: House Challoan

We agree. More security should be established. We will plead your case among the Elites, and would support increased protection from the Drezden. The housing projects will be on the agenda, too.

To: Askani House

You should have the funds to support a housing project in the outlands. You could make a significant profit from the venture, so long as you do not gouge the outlanders, which we will not allow.

To: Whom it may concern

We believe that the Orange Clan should be allowed back into Nesse. They are ethnic Nessers and capable soldiers. Their service against the Wolf barbarians would aid in the war effort. Enough time has passed for us to forgive them of their support of the old tyrant King, plus they are honorable, unlike some of the exiles. We ask that other clans agree.

 

[TaylorFlame]

The Fire Clan would be glad to take the Orange Clan under its patronage to let them prove themselves as capable of being allowed back through military service.

 

[Eltain]

The Askani House agrees with House Challoan on many issues. Resources(money) on our part have already been set aside for the funding of said housing projects.

We will tentatively give our consent for Orange Clan to return to Nesse.

We will, however, formally announce our full support for House Challoan's proposed Senate and Imperium.

Unrelated:

Spoiler :

Edit: House Challoan also has our support in their bid for Imperator, should the new government come about soon.

 

[Bil]

TO: ALYA Clan
FROM: Fiddling Conclave

Pre-Signed, 'Galigus Fiddler, Speaker of the Conclave'

We would be happy to accept supplies for our craft, and will surely offer the resultant product to your house in return. While I am busy this evening, due to the funeral of my cousin Roger (who seems to have drowned in one of his own glue barrels, somehow), I will be prepared to meet with a representative in the morning to work out the finer details. We are not economists or businessmen, so I would like to request that much of the agreement be determined by your people first, after which we may negotiate the final agreement.

Signed Again, 'Galigus Fiddler, Speaker of the Conclave'



TO: ALL
FROM: Fiddling Conclave

Pre-Signed, 'Galigus Fiddler, Speaker of the Conclave'

While we aren't strategists, and certainly aren't politicians in any way (quite honestly, I wasn't paying attention to the entirety of this debate due to a stubborn itch on my forearm), we might suggest that we could find a way to coerce the blood-thirsty Wolf Tribe into, instead, attacking the Golden Horde alongside our forces and the forces of the Red Tribe. Why not lump two problems into one?

Also, we Fiddlers would be more than happy to assist in the construction of anything at all, ever. While we are not builders, exactly, we could function in some minor architectural advisement position, though mainly supplying certain specialty building materials. Could you believe that one of my kin is currently working on a type of cement that is nearly twice as durable as this common crud we've been using for decades, while drying in only half the time? Wait, there's more! For a limited time only, we are slashing prices on our over-stocked reserves of manufactured glue! Perfect for adhering anything to anything else, at all, perhaps. This offer won't last, so order now and be the envy of your rival craftsmen!

Lastly, I would like to make one additional request: My brother, Alvin, is currently undergoing research into the sciences of transmutation. While he is only in the beginning stages of development, his work is already quite promising. What we need from the other families of Nesse is monetary support, or rather, donations, as it were, in order to fund this research. With absolutely no guarantee that there will be a return, we are not willing to take true investments at this time, we are more than willing to accept free money. Eventually, if this shows greater promise, the Fiddling Conclave will be in a position to transmute, potentially, any given material into any other material at all. Theoretically, if it all works out, we could probably even turn humans into gold, or sewage into useful solvents for all the glue you will likely be purchasing soon.

Signed Again, 'Galigus Fiddler, Speaker of the Conclave'




@Daft: The Fiddling Conclave is currently funneling its available resources into three projects evenly. Firstly, the cement project, which is trying to find ways of enhancing the structural integrity and durability of existing cement recipes, while also reducing the time it takes to set and dry. Secondly, a program to develop more functional lenses, in various combinations of sizes, shapes, thicknesses and positions relative to each when contained in a wooden tube; the goals of this project is to develop not only superior spyglasses for security and scouting, but also to develop a means with which the Fiddlers can more closely examine the heavens for future research. Thirdly, the transmutation project, ridiculous as it may seem, is a fair priority on their list of things to make; even if it is unreasonable, they don't know if it's impossible, and so they're going to try. Also, large quantities of glue are being sold for cheap at the front gate to the Conclave Laboratory.

 

[Northen Wolf]

From: House Challoan
To: Whom it may concern

We believe that the Orange Clan should be allowed back into Nesse. They are ethnic Nessers and capable soldiers. Their service against the Wolf barbarians would aid in the war effort. Enough time has passed for us to forgive them of their support of the old tyrant King, plus they are honorable, unlike some of the exiles. We ask that other clans agree.

The Fire Clan would be glad to take the Orange Clan under its patronage to let them prove themselves as capable of being allowed back through military service.

From: Moon Shadow Clan
To: All whom it may concern

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS ! These men of Orange Clan have broken their oaths - they have failed to serve kings, whom they swore to protect with their life - but these unloyal people are still alive. They failed to keep their oath, they have failed as they still live but their masters do not. Even a murder or a thief has more honor than these, wretched, people.

They have been exiled because they cannot be trusted. We are as much native citizens of Nessos as they are, but (most of us) still have our honor!

How can Loyal Nessos people even think taking oath-breakers back into their ranks and ignoring the fact that many of the Moon Shadow Clan have committed faction of crimes compared to failure of keeping the oath!

We - the ones who did what they could to survive and now pay high price for it - demand
A) Either leave orange clan as exiled ones or
B) Accept our (well behaving) members back into your ranks too!

The Askani House, The Fire Clan, House Challoan have clearly showed corruption and unhonor in their ranks! We demand other clans to understand and respect ancient laws and/or treat us all equally. Should you decide to accept them as warriors, we demand Moon Shadow Clan to be treated the same, or even better!

Signed,
Alaranius,
High Council member of the Moon Shadow Clan

 

[erez87]

The Alya clan is completely against accepting any exiles back into Nesse for the time being. They have been exiled for a reason.

to CHALLOAN clan
Are you fools? The reason Nesse deposed the tyrants of the past was to make sure there won't be any new ones! Your idea of imposing a new tyrant is ridiculous. Besides that Julii may have brought a golden age but he did so on the backs of the people Nesse that had no power. The Nesser and Outland clans were pushed out of any control in the city and were no less then slaves to the rule of Julii. While it is true that had brought prosperity it brought it only to the elites of those days. The only good thing that came from his rule to the rest was the walls of Nesse that now act as a deterrent for growth. His attempts to ease the outlander resistance in the past he aimed at giving them semi control over anything outside of Nesse. Yet this has proven a horrible mistake now that the city must grow and outlanders may need to be pushed further away from the center of Nesse since we need more housing.

We have other ideas for the political organization of Nesse. We believe another more free system where many have a say in the state's handling would prove much better then a all ruling tyrant that has all power in his hands with a fake senate that is ruled by the sword to vote for him again and again.

to ALL
We are designing a better way to rule Nesse as we speak. We hope all clans could eventually agree or at least to agree on a feudal like system where each elite clan will lead its own alliance.

to ASKANI clan
We wish to lend some money from you and we will pay you back soon with interest. We wish to finance the trade route with the sea-people. That is a very lucrative idea and you could gain much from supporting us with money.