Hi I am back.
Good to see we had a victory & not a bad one either. Shame I missed the closing stages.
I have to say I think we have done pretty well.
Altogether a good team effort- congrats all round.
Are you sure 20K in Utica will be so soon? According to the city
its more than 900 turns. But buildings culture does double after so many years so it may be sooner becuase of this.
Diplomatic can be reached before this and will give a better score but seems such a waste after all this...
0- 1600 AD
Look where the coal is. If Rome had been two squares across it could have built Iron works.
Building coal plants with their pollution. Do we need them in all cities? Hoover Dam much better. Is there any thing significant to build which needs coal plant? ToE can be prebuilt...
@AlanH - true, but last SGOTM was a 'standalone'.
And what happens when there are more civs than can fit in the circle?
I hope Civ 4 addresses the limitations of the current dip screen.
Shouldn't grumble really- the civfanatic GOTM upgrades have given my humble vanilla 1.29 a new lease of...
@ Gray area
At the bottom right of the screen (along the right hand edge of the information box) there is a vertical row of 3 or 4 small letters.
Click the letter D and all available civs can be contacted via the pop up.
The diplo screen was buggy on the last vanilla SGOTM. Its annoying...
@Gray area
USuff is abbreviation of Universal Suffrage.
You should have given Bab's what they wanted. Not so much that it prevents Dip victory its just that they could pay us good cash for tech, and a map and 73 gold is pittance (especially now economies are growing) in comparison to what...
@KA
Yes indust after steam is good. I tend not to go for it just to make sure that ToE is achieved quickly and definitely but you're probably right about the prebuild being easier to measure for USuff. As for gpt as long as we have new tech it doesn't matter too much but the 2 free tech...
0- 1400 AD
We are short of gold and our revenue is low. Greece lands troops.
1- 1405 AD
I disband every catapult in Hippo and switch it to Caravel. Where is our Navy?? Gpt increase from 1pt to 11pt
Babylon- peace and MA against Greece then 7gpt each for wool and...
@ KA
I am really talking about this from a diplomatic victory stance as no nation will ever become too strong. That is strong enough to defeat or worry us either militarily or through a large tech lead.
No, the sole reason for military alliances is to keep in the good books of other civs...
Hooray!! 2 GL's Well done Sir Ortin!!!
Agree with KA as to what to do with them regarding wonders etc..
Except for no.4 about not attacking with Elites which I would do as a Great Leader in the hand is worth two in the promotional bush. If S_Ortin had followed that advice we wouldnt have had...
If we get GL I suggest building an army rather than a GW especially if diplomatic victory is looking less likely. Dont count it out however.
Mostly wars only make just the opponent furious, especially when good relations already exist with others. Culture of civ and gov also play a part.
A...
Looks like economy is slowly strengthening. By the time steam arrives we should be able to research better.
Prebuilt in Theveste simply because it speeds up culture in that city and therefore widens southern cultural borders sooner. It's far too late for a single city cultural victory as...
@Sir_Ortin. Yes we should build troops closer to the time we need them as every turn they cost gold. We are short of gold for research at the moment. As regards pillaging ironclads I think you are being a touch paranoid. A couple of ironclads of our own would see them off in no time. We are not...
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