1170 AD Trades

[Strider]

Germany:
Gives
Navigation
World Map
290g
For
Metallurgy or Physics

Gives
World Map
150g
For
Dyes

India:
Has nothing of value they can trade us

Russia:
We are at war with this Civilization.

Babylon
Nothing of value to trade to us.

Persia:
Gives
Magnetism
World Map
197g (Per Turn)
80g
For
Theory of Gravity
Military Tradation

Gives
Magnetism
World Map
1g
For
Dyes

Aztecs
Nothing of Value

Zululand:
Gives
Ivory
Navigation
World Map
7g (Per Turn)
20g
For
Military Tradition or Theory of Gravity

Greece:
Nothing of Value

Egypt:
Gives
Navigation
World Map
For
Theory of Gravity or Military Tradition

England
Gives
Silks
For
Dyes
Chivalry or Education or Gunpowder
14g (Per Turn)
or
Gives
Silks
For
Dyes
Two of the following: Education, Chivalry, and Gunpowder

 

[Chieftess]

Take out Mag. We're only 1 turn from researching it. We can get up to 280gpt from Persia.

 

[truckingpete]

Hmmm...all very good trades. I must say thought, we shouldn't give any civs Military Tradition. Yes, they will research it after awhile, but then it could be devasating for us. We should be cautious about trading now. Don't get me wrong..we can still trade..but we have to be careful..anyway...

I would like to see Germanys and give Physics...
Persia is good, but we are going to be done with Mag in no time
Zulu trade with Theory of GravityEnglands are okay too...

Truckingpete
Head of Trade

 

[tao]

Let us look at what was said already in the Sciente and trade thread:

Originally posted by Chieftess
EDIT: I must also add a very strong word of Caution. Persia is probably in a Golden Age right now, and perhaps they started that war only to trigger it. Getting 282gpt (or even 245gpt) might only be for 10 turns, with Persia declaring war on us, getting us into a real mess.

Originally posted by tao
The IMHO bad thing about giving Persia ToG is that it will lift them into the Industrial Times and that most likely will give them nationalism. And that means MPPs. We don't want Babylon, Germany, or India to mpp with them, right? Thus I would prefer to delay this, if possible.

We could trade with them as follows:
- give Persia military tradition and dyes
- get from Persia 158gpt

They will be able to pay even after their Golden Age is finished and thus over 20 turns we would get the same amount of money as if they pay 290gpt and declare war after 10 turns.

I would prefer very much if Strider would include such IMHO very valid points in his posts in the future.