(6-CP) Abode of Peace and Orthodoxy tweaks

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Current Abode of Peace:
+1 :c5gold: Gold and :c5faith: Faith in Holy City for every 2 followers of this Religion in :c5citystate: City-States.
Your resting point for :c5influence: Influence with :c5citystate: City-States following your Religion is increased by 35, and their Quest rewards are increased by 25%.

Current Orthodoxy:
Religion spreads to Cities 25% further away.
Pressure doubled to friendly :c5citystate: City-States, and tripled to foreign Cities connected via :trade: Trade Routes.
(Note: these modifiers stack additively, which means pressure to friendly CS with trade route is +300%, or 26 in Standard speed, assuming no other modifiers.)

Orthodoxy trades direct yields for passive spread power. First actively spread to a group of CS, and they will form a stronghold of pressure source on each other and nearby cities, which can be hard to remove if left alone for a while. Combined with trade routes, this belief can let your pressure convert non-founders and irritate founders so they need to waste faith on deconversion.

Specifically increasing pressure to CS is out of place for a belief that wants to uniformly spread to everyone though, and more in place with Abode of Peace, which needs this kind of bonus to stay effective.

Proposed Abode of Peace:
+1 :c5gold: Gold and :c5faith: Faith in Holy City for every 2 followers of this Religion in :c5citystate: City-States.
+100% Religious Pressure to friendly :c5citystate: City-States.
Your resting point for :c5influence: Influence with :c5citystate: City-States following your Religion is increased by 35, and their Quest rewards are increased by 25%.

Proposed Orthodoxy:
Religion spreads to Cities 40% further away.
+100% Religious Pressure to friendly :c5citystate: City-States.
+200% Religious Pressure to foreign Cities connected via :trade: Trade Routes.

Pressure graph (assuming 20 max trade route distance):
y-axis: pressure
x-axis: trade route distance
Red line: No Orthodoxy - 20 max pressure distance
Blue line: Current Orthodoxy - 25 max pressure distance (no trade route)
Green line: Proposed Orthodoxy - 28 max pressure distance (no trade route)
Red dotted line: Proposed Abode of Peace against CS (no trade route)
Blue dotted line: Current Orthodoxy against CS (no trade route)
Purple line: No Orthodoxy, has trade route
Purple dotted line: Proposed Abode of Peace against CS, has trade route
Not shown: Orthodoxy (current or proposed), has trade route - 19.5 pressure
Not shown: Current Orthodoxy against CS, has trade route - 26 pressure
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The overall power of Orthodoxy shouldn't change much, and Abode of Peace would get a deserved buff.


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Current Abode of Peace:
+1 :c5gold: Gold and :c5faith: Faith in Holy City for every 2 followers of this Religion in :c5citystate: City-States.
Your resting point for :c5influence: Influence with :c5citystate: City-States following your Religion is increased by 35, and their Quest rewards are increased by 25%.

Current Orthodoxy:
Religion spreads to Cities 25% further away.
Pressure doubled to friendly :c5citystate: City-States, and tripled to foreign Cities connected via :trade: Trade Routes.
(Note: these modifiers stack additively, which means pressure to friendly CS with trade route is +300%, or 26 in Standard speed, assuming no other modifiers.)

Orthodoxy trades direct yields for passive spread power. First actively spread to a group of CS, and they will form a stronghold of pressure source on each other and nearby cities, which can be hard to remove if left alone for a while. Combined with trade routes, this belief can let your pressure convert non-founders and irritate founders so they need to waste faith on deconversion.

Specifically increasing pressure to CS is out of place for a belief that wants to uniformly spread to everyone though, and more in place with Abode of Peace, which needs this kind of bonus to stay effective.

Proposed Abode of Peace:
+1 :c5gold: Gold and :c5faith: Faith in Holy City for every 2 followers of this Religion in :c5citystate: City-States.
+100% Religious Pressure to friendly :c5citystate: City-States.
Your resting point for :c5influence: Influence with :c5citystate: City-States following your Religion is increased by 35, and their Quest rewards are increased by 25%.

Proposed Orthodoxy:
Religion spreads to Cities 40% further away.
+100% Religious Pressure to friendly :c5citystate: City-States.
+200% Religious Pressure to foreign Cities connected via :trade: Trade Routes.

Pressure graph (assuming 20 max trade route distance):
y-axis: pressure
x-axis: trade route distance
Red line: No Orthodoxy - 20 max pressure distance
Blue line: Current Orthodoxy - 25 max pressure distance (no trade route)
Green line: Proposed Orthodoxy - 28 max pressure distance (no trade route)
Red dotted line: Proposed Abode of Peace against CS (no trade route)
Blue dotted line: Current Orthodoxy against CS (no trade route)
Purple line: No Orthodoxy, has trade route
Purple dotted line: Proposed Abode of Peace against CS, has trade route
Not shown: Orthodoxy (current or proposed), has trade route - 19.5 pressure
Not shown: Current Orthodoxy against CS, has trade route - 26 pressure
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The overall power of Orthodoxy shouldn't change much, and Abode of Peace would get a deserved buff.
does pressure keep its fractional values or is there rounding? If its rounds that might change the curb a bit.

is it even possible to be less than 4 tiles away from a pressure source? (since cities must be 4 tiles away)
 
Pressure has one decimal place.

4 tiles away can mean less than 4 trade route distance.
 
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