6otM49 After Action

[leif erikson]

Welcome to the 6otM49 After Actions Report thread. In this thread you can post the results of your game. Please state victory date and score (preferably in the post title), as recorded in the Hall of Fame, and the most important: your path to glory!

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- How many cities did you settle, or capture?
- What did you prioritize for research and policies?
- Did you send anyone to the dustbin of history?
- What did you build for an Army and Navy and how did it change?
- Did you use your UU? Was it useful?
- What was your most useful unit?
- Was diplomacy useful? How?
- Were City-States helpful? Did any other civ give you a hard time about city-states?
- Did religion play a role in your game?
- What was your strategy, how did you gain your Science VC?
- How many Dark Ages and/or Golden Ages did you have? Did you have a strategy?
- What effect did Loyalty have on your settling or conquering? How did you mitigate its effects?
- Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
- Did you discover any new exploits?
- Did you enjoy the game?

Please use spoiler tags for any surprise details you'd like kept hidden. Thanks.

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[BarbarianHunter]

Invalid SV T225

...continued from opening actions thread...

Unbeknownst to me, the Khmer and the Dutch had been warring. An EMERGENCY was called when the Dutch took Khmer’s capital, Angor Thom. I figured why not? I was about to hit mercenaries and had a few galleys in the area. The problem was Angor Thom is inland. After raising a Dutch city...

Spoiler :

...I noted that my wartime EMERGENCY ally had a city (Mahendraparvata) that had been beaten down to around 30% health. It was coastal, and I had 2 caravels within range. So I declared on Khmer, took the city and another adjacent to it (which alleviated the loyalty problems). A few turns passed, and China declared a surprise war on me. I figure. I have a few units up there but most are near the Khmer, Dutch and Harold. I am thinking on declaring on Harold, as these Jongs seem quite effective! In fact, yes. I will do that right after I finish writing this note.

The war with Harold is off to a splendid start!

Spoiler :

The war with Harold is going so well, I figured why not declare on Cleopatra as well? Here is the opening barrage…

Spoiler :

The war with Harold proceeded without much resistance. Have I mentioned these Jong units are fun? Ghaad! Skien looks like it could be a canal city. If it is this game is going to end quicker than I thought. Let’s find out…

Spoiler :

A BONANZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler :

Things just kept getting better and better from there. I won all the multifronted wars I was engaged in. I conquered China after he DoW'ed me, then finished most of Egypt and moved toward Arabia. After China I finished the Dutch (but lost a cavalry corps during the campaign ). I easily took Arabia out then on to Korea. I had planned to leave a few isolated Korean cities then work the space projects. I have been playing allot of domination victory goals on ludicrous map sizes (mod) and just got in the habit of conquering cities not really thinking on capitals (as there's always one more to conquer on a 200x100 sized ludicrous map). Things were going so well, I got into the conquest groove (ie. was asleep at the wheel) and conquered the Korean capital around T180 to trigger a domination victory. I used the 1 more turn feature and completed the requisite steps for a science victory on T225.

Oh well. I never win these things on time anyway.

Spoiler :

EDIT: Here's the save file just in case anyone's interested. Not exactly sure why the display said there were 2 turns left for launch then it launched at the end of the turn.

 

[JoZilla]

SCI WIN T229 / 2182 pts

- How many cities did you settle, or capture?
- Initially settled 4 and captured all but China.

- What did you prioritize for research and policies?
Mercenaries was the most important for Jongs. Too bad I forgot to prebuild quadriremes and had to build Jongs, while not having +100% production boost.

- Did you send anyone to the dustbin of history?
- I captured all but China. I wiped completely only Dutch and Khmer I believe. Nothing tactics here, just did not want to waste time taking small useless cities.

- What did you build for an Army and Navy and how did it change?
- Lots of Jongs, but lacked good land units. I had hard time to find iron for knights.

- Did you use your UU? Was it useful?
- It is super good. Just bombard city to 0 and use embarked scout to capture

- What was your most useful unit?
Jongs definately.

- Was diplomacy useful? How?
I got some trades, but not much. AI was pissed by my warmongering.

- Were City-States helpful? Did any other civ give you a hard time about city-states?
- Scientific ones and especially Stockholm is good. Korea was sending lots of envoys early to stockholm. Later I got it to myself, then he captured it, which dipped my science a lot for many turns.

- Did religion play a role in your game?
- No. Pantheon was Goddess of harvest, which seems really powerful. I used to take Divine spark but I think goddess of harvest is perhaps stronger, but its more tedious to do the chopping.

- What was your strategy, how did you gain your Science VC?
- Tried to build lots of campuses and capture lots of campuses In the end I build Big Ben and got massive amounts of gold to buy important great people for space projects.

- How many Dark Ages and/or Golden Ages did you have? Did you have a strategy?
- I dont think I had a dark age. It might have been good to try to get first dark age, then heroic age for 3 era boosts.

- What effect did Loyalty have on your settling or conquering? How did you mitigate its effects?
- Had lots of problems. I should have planned captures better to avoid loyality problems. Like try to take many cities in first turn and not like slowly one by one.

 

[lordofcivs]

T289 Score 1616

I was playing after a few months, and was playing Science Victory after a long time. Hence I did plenty of mistakes (especially with deciding city for Space Port and forgetting it was Royal Society that enabled the space projects chopping), otherwise the game could have finished about 50 turns ago. Anyways, it was greatly fun to play Indonesia playing on this map.

- How many cities did you settle, or capture?
Settled 22. Received 1 from loyalty flip. Conquered one barb city. I would have settled around 5 to 8 cities more, but then I got bored, and by then the game was reaching later eras.

- What did you prioritize for research and policies?
Early on it was mostly the techs related to sea, as there was no Civ nearby and exploration was crucial to this game.

- Did you send anyone to the dustbin of history?
No one. Didn't have a single war in the entire game. Neither I declared to anyone, nor someone else did (even though I didn't have too much military in the earlier eras.)

- What did you build for an Army and Navy and how did it change?
Didn't build much. Early on I only had 1 warrior, 3 scouts, and 1 archer, which helped me enough to deal with the barbs on my continent and also settle 10 cities on my continent. Also build 2 galleys earlier (for exploration), and later 2 Jongs for travelling my settlers faster to the distant islands.

- Did you use your UU? Was it useful?
Jong was very good for travelling Settlers fast. Although I built only 2, these were very helpful in building good cities much faster.

- What was your most useful unit?
Jong + Settler.

- Was diplomacy useful? How?
Mostly for gold making, as I had plenty of luxuries to sell. And gold helped in buying workers and more settlers for more land grabbing.

- Were City-States helpful? Did any other civ give you a hard time about city-states?
Yes. City-States were helpful. I made myself suzerain of 2 science and 2 commerce city-states, and overall it was very helpful. Other civs were very interested in Antoich, and this is where most of the technical fight occurred. I had to constantly use my spies on that city-state for keeping myself its suzerain.

- Did religion play a role in your game?
Greatly! I took God of Sea this game. No idea why would anyone take God of Harvest this game. This map was full of sea resources. It provided a hammer on each fish boat, and we had plenty of cities. Then we had our own Unique improvement. Each city was pumping hard on everything just by working on sea tiles. I had cities on one tile land as well and could do really good with that city.

- What was your strategy, how did you gain your Science VC?
Strategy was simply to make as many cities as possible wherever there were some sea resources nearby. Even small islands could make cities and would provide plenty of gold and science and a trade route.

- How many Dark Ages and/or Golden Ages did you have? Did you have a strategy?
2 dark ages, 2 heroic ages and 1 golden age.

- What effect did Loyalty have on your settling or conquering? How did you mitigate its effects?
Loyalty had little effect in this game. Only once during a dark age one of my city faced loyalty issue, and it was easily countered by one governor.

- Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
I wouldn't call it surprise. It was something I had forgotten myself, which is that what I needed to do to unlock space projects chopping. I went through civilopedia, but could not find anything. While doing that I also messed up in deciding which city I should go for building my space port (and I actually built 3 ports, one of which was completely useless.) If managed properly, the game would have finished long ago.

- Did you discover any new exploits?
Nope. But I feel that God of Sea is too powerful in any map with islands. People should give it a chance rather than sticking with God of Harvest all the time.

- Did you enjoy the game?
Too much. I'm going to replay this game. It would be greatly fun.

Thanks a lot.

 

[pahakuutti]

160T

After meeting Babylon (and later Stockholm) decided to go with culture first approach. My first 3-4 districts were theater squares. Then for harbors and campuses came only later. I think my first campus was online 70Tish.
Also build one holy site to later abandon the hole idea of finding religion because someone did grab jesuit education.

I was a little disappointed with the isolated start as my early navy did't find anyone to harass. Around T70 I realized that I need to invade China but all of their cities are inland except one. So I build/chopped few chariots to be upgraded to knights after their voyage to China's continent. Took over 100T before China was eliminated.

After that I warred against everyone except Korea and Arabia. As indonesian empire grew so did the science output. Quickly reaching to the point where every tech that can be researched takes no more than 3 turn, most of them just 1 (blew away a lot of overflows by triggering eurekas).

The culture first approach kind of worker; reached democracy before moon landing. Messed up space projects. Tried to go with 1 space port and launch everything from there. Luckily, I had built a backup space city from where launched the last part, just didn't have the workers in place and had to rush purchase few workers.
Maybe with better timing that would have worked.

Thanks for the game!

 

[kcd_swede]

SV t304 (1866AD) score 1345
I won, I won. hurrrah, first win on Immortal level!!!!
No time to tell you about it now, but I will come back later.

 

[leif erikson]

SV t304 (1866AD) score 1345
I won, I won. hurrrah, first win on Immortal level!!!!

Congrats.

 

[exarkun809]

T256, 1211 score. I've never posted before, but this game was worth it. I love immo (and maaaybe a deity here or there) games that really take advantage of the civ's unique abilities. Great set up, thanks for doing this!

- How many cities did you settle, or capture?
11 settled. 0 captured. The Jong's are really great, but I was having so much fun sim'ing and there were so many islands to settle (I could have probably done 20 cities) that I just decided to do a peaceful game.
- What did you prioritize for research and policies?
I focused on a big economy (+1100 gpt in the last 20ish turns), but nothing crazy. Went Shipbuilding earlier than usual and Rocketry, of course. Suffrage and Space Race for policies.
- Did you send anyone to the dustbin of history?
Nope. Let 'em all be mad at each other while I kept strong alliances.
- What did you build for an Army and Navy and how did it change?
Very little except for envoys and boosts.
- Did you use your UU? Was it useful?
A little bit on defense. It's amazing, but I didn't use it much. However, the unique improvement was insane. Ended up with all my cities over 15 pop and most over 20 pop.
- What was your most useful unit?
Armada Jong.
- Was diplomacy useful? How?
Yes. Alliances were huge and ended up with +30-40 gpt trade routes and massive trade of luxes.
- Were City-States helpful? Did any other civ give you a hard time about city-states?
Science and Econ CSs were great. No trouble.
- Did religion play a role in your game?
Nah. I thought about it, but saw that 5 other civs were going for it rather early so gave up.
- What was your strategy, how did you gain your Science VC?
Crazy strong econ to buy up a ton of buildings. Harbor to Campus to Comm to Industrial in most cities.
- How many Dark Ages and/or Golden Ages did you have? Did you have a strategy?
Dark, Heroic, Golden, Dark, Heroic. Once I knew I wasn't getting golden I stayed in darks.
- What effect did Loyalty have on your settling or conquering? How did you mitigate its effects?
None
- Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
Not really. Except not having an immediate neighbor, which kind of lead me to peaceful route.
- Did you discover any new exploits?
No, but I'm now going to try to incorporate culture more to get Royal Society earlier.
- Did you enjoy the game?
Yes! This was an awesome one (and I play most of these).

 

[leif erikson]

You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it.

Welcome to CivFanatics and Game of the Month. Glad you joined us and thanks for telling us abut your game.

 

[Eyswein]

T175, 1140AD, Science Victory

- Where did you settle your cities? How many cities did you settle or capture?
Capital SIP, 2nd City – 4 south, then continued to settle island, ended with 37 cities built or captured

- What did you prioritize for research, policies, and governance cards?
Research: AH, Sailing, Mining, Pottery, Writing, Currency, various
Civics: beeline Pol Phil, D&P, then Mercenaries
Governance: Varied, but generally faster units, science, gold

- What was your build order?
Capital: Builder, Settler, Monument, Builder, Slingers, Warriors; T43 - first Galley
I used 2 charges from my first 2 builders, then sent them off exploring the seas, sadly both captured by barbs after finding 3 AI and zero City States; Galleys had to pick up the slack

- How soon did you build a District? Which ones did you prioritize?
Prioritized Campuses and Commerce Districts, followed by some Theater Squares, then others needed for eureka moments

- Which Governors did you choose and why did you choose them?
Started Magus x2 and Liang; later Reyna to Contractor and Pingala to Space Initiative

- Did you try to build any Wonders?
Oracle early for bonus great people points
Kilwa Kisiwani for bonuses (sadly no big culture bonus this game)
Big Ben for gold boost
Oxford University later trying to get a couple techs I needed faster, but failed to do so and it turned out to be a waste

-Ages?
T51: Dark Age, held back exploring when I realized I couldn’t get a golden age
T97: Heroic Age, Monumentality; Pen & Brush; Free Inquiry
T137: Golden Age, Reform the Coinage (Monumentality may have been better)

- Religion?
Early Goddess of the Harvest, didn’t get an actual religion, but did capture cities with Jesuit Education to make use of it and spread it among my people; mainly used my faith for builders and science buildings

- Barbarians?
lack of my own military and barbs to north made me send my first settle south; also had my first two builders captured during exploration, which sucked; needed more military out early, I didn’t even get the BW eureka

- Military? Did you instigate any major wars? Were your neighbors peaceful?
After getting Jong, I declared war on China, though strategic mistake of not adding enough land units and some tactical errors with those land units slowed me down greatly; war with all others at some point with big gold peace treaties; Alliance with Korea (first time they gave me 41gpt for the alliance)

- Were City-States helpful?
Yes, focused on double Suz with Kilwa Kisiwani

- Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
Nothing too weird

- What was your strategy, how did you gain your Science VC?
I meant to keep a more balanced science/culture, but my science exploded beyond my culture. I was well short of Democracy when I reached Rocketry and Satellites. International Space Agency (green governance card) from Globalization didn’t occur until too late to be useful for my 10 Suz. I gold purchased not one, not two, but three Space Ports. The first two chopped earth satellites and moon landing which propelled me to Democracy for Royal Society (didn’t save chops, so 12 turns to build it). The first two spaceports then started on Spaceship Parts as soon as they could with Royal Society builders while the third spaceport had chops to complete the last part (which finished ahead of the slower Royal Society method).

- Did you enjoy the game?
It was awesome as always. Continued awesome job on GOTM.

 

[arthur486]

SV @ T209
This is my fastest science victory to date. While I don't think I've played it badly, by looking at @pahakuutti and @Eyswein 's results it's incredible how much an offensive approach helps you with bringing down the number of turns required. I will have to try and be more aggressive next game(s).

- How many cities did you settle, or capture?
Had no more than 15 cities, captured only Toronto and a Korean city which became free. Got along with everyone (except Wilhelmina) well, continuously traded luxuries for money.

- What did you prioritize for research and policies?
Campuses, followed by Theater Squares and Harbors/Commercial Hubs for the Eurekas.
Went Oligarchy -> Classical Republic -> Merchant -> Communism

- Did you send anyone to the dustbin of history?
Nope. Did not play aggressively.

- What did you build for an Army and Navy and how did it change?
Usual slingers, warriors; chopped a few galleys and quads to upgrade to Jongs, which are very, very good

- Did you use your UU? Was it useful?
Yes I did; very useful to transport warriors to barb camps and tribal villages.

- Was diplomacy useful? How?
Used it to trade luxuries for money. For a long time had over 200 gold surplus/turn, which allowed me to buy the Space Port.

- Were City-States helpful? Did any other civ give you a hard time about city-states?
Very much so. Suzerained Babylon, Stockholm and Zanzibar and kept them until the end. Defended them from any possible invasion, though no one declared on them.

- What was your strategy, how did you gain your Science VC?
Went with Goddess of the Harvest, used it for patronage mostly. Built Theater Squares and patronaged a bunch of Babylon-powered writers. Built Kilwa for suzerain bonuses, Oxford was super handy as I was already ahead in science and could delay it to be useful.

- How many Dark Ages and/or Golden Ages did you have? Did you have a strategy?
Dark Age -> Heroic Age -> Golden Age, just like @Eyswein . The heroic age was super, had a harbor with 12 gold, 12 science!

- Did you enjoy the game?
Very much, thank you. Was my fastest science win (peaceful), first time I build Kilwa, first time I bought the Space Port and other districts with cash, first time I've used Babylon extensively, first time I've had master spies raking in the cash and so on. Fun times!

 

[nufro]

T 234

The end game was a disaster. Had to hard build all the parts for the past 40 turns due to era mismatch.

 

[leif erikson]

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