A bug involving the Science Ratio slider? Surely not.

Psyclops

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I'm playing Civ 3 with the 1.29f patch applied and I'm in the dawn era of my German empire. My per-turn income is 18 and I'm currently researching Monarchy which at this point will take 32 turns to complete. Now, no matter what percentage I set the science ratio slider to, the 'turns to complete' remains at 32 turns. The only exception to this is when I set it to 00% and it results in '-- turns' (which is reasonable enough). I can't see how this could be a bug but I can't see what I might be doing wrong. Does anyone have any ideas which might put me straight? It would be a pity to ditch the game and start again as, for once, I have made a reasonable start but this situation causes me to lag behind drastically on the technology front.
 
Probably you don't have enough commerce to research Monarchy in under 40 turns, and started 8 turns ago. In that case set science to 10% or create 1 scientist and set slider to 0%. How long did polytheism take to research? Monarchy is more expensive, and will take longer (unless your empire grew ofcourse).
 
nerovats probably has the answer.

The maximum number of turns to research anything in Civ3-Vanilla is 40 turns. So even if you don't have enough commerce to research it in that time at 100% Science, you will still do it at 1/40 per turn. Like he said, either drop Science to 10% or make a Scientist and set Science to 0%. (Or take steps to improve your gold-per-turn income -- but that might take too long to be worthwhile for your current research item. Still, it will be useful for follow-on research. ;))
 
Thanks nerovats and Padma, I now understand what is going on with this situation. I can't remember how may turns it took for polytheism but I think as my commerce was low that it took the maximum number of turns without being influenced by the science ratio slider (as happened with researching monarchy). Anyway, I continued my game and put more emphasis on generating commerce (as advised) so that science would benefit more and I now have enough to influence the number of turns to research new advances. Thanks again :) I think it's time to give those pesky Russians a hard time!
 
Btw this happens more and more depending on how big your map is.Its impossible to have too little gold in a tiny map.
 
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