A few questions. And a public forum for anyone to ask them.

[Lockesdonkey]

I'm back after two months (almost). Amazing what a difference that can make.

Two questions I have about all this:

1. How in God's name are they handling civ traits? This doesn't seem to be addressed in Civrules's thread...The civs will be distinct, how will they make that the case?

2. It seems that individual cities have their own faiths. Ok, but what happens to their faiths when you go secular? Do they go away? Or do the cities retain their faith? If so, can you still build "Christian Cathedrals" in your Christian cities, and "Confucian Cathedrals" in Confucian cities, and "Communist Cathedrals" in Communist cities?

I don't care about right answers here, since if Civrules can't get info about it, nobody else can. I just want to know what everyone's take on these two issues are. I just want some discussion.

If anyone has further questions, bring them on! Just number them accordingly...The next question would be question 3, regardless of who asks it. Again, we don't care about accuracy, because the questions here are supposed to be ones to which we cannot find good answers.

 

[Darwin420]

Welcome back.

1) Traits are now associated with the Leader (Napolean, Lincoln, Ghengis Khan). They gave an example that while Ghandi would be peaceful and help out smaller civs, good 'ol Ghengis will try to burn your cities to the ground.

2) I have no idea, but I would like to think they have the option to have secularism...

 

[Arvedui]

3 - How will Firaxis handle the question of Judaism and Monotheism? Because, traditionally, this has always been an early medieval tech. But the followers of Judaism are supposed to have discovered it ages before. Anyway, I came up with the idea that the tech associated with the founding of Judaism should be Code of Laws (yeah, the ten commandments), but how would one define that they already have monotheism? Uhm... Maybe they will take out Monotheism as a tech, since it should be defined by the religion. So, the Hinduists should never discover Monotheism, so this shouldn't be a tech. But then...

4 - What tech will trigger Christianism? Because I think that Monotheism in Civ3 reflects the change to Christianism in the Roman empire. So, if Monotheism is out, what tech will mark the coming of the Christ?

 

[Loppan Torkel]

1) Traits are now associated with the Leader (Napolean, Lincoln, Ghengis Khan). They gave an example that while Ghandi would be peaceful and help out smaller civs, good 'ol Ghengis will try to burn your cities to the ground.

Is this for sure, or could it be that Louis XIV is just more focused on culture while Napoleon is more focused on military, like as an AI-feature. Have anyone heard or seen anything about traits?

If hardwired traits are associated with leaders instead of civs they'd atleast covered themselves somewhat against discussion whether US is militaristic or not or whether the Mongols are aggressiv by nature. The traits are just tied to one leader and one certain part in history now, if this is the case.

 

[Sullla]

3 - How will Firaxis handle the question of Judaism and Monotheism? Because, traditionally, this has always been an early medieval tech. But the followers of Judaism are supposed to have discovered it ages before. Anyway, I came up with the idea that the tech associated with the founding of Judaism should be Code of Laws (yeah, the ten commandments), but how would one define that they already have monotheism? Uhm... Maybe they will take out Monotheism as a tech, since it should be defined by the religion. So, the Hinduists should never discover Monotheism, so this shouldn't be a tech. But then...

4 - What tech will trigger Christianism? Because I think that Monotheism in Civ3 reflects the change to Christianism in the Roman empire. So, if Monotheism is out, what tech will mark the coming of the Christ?

Civ4 will definitely have a new tech tree, in which the techs will no doubt be shuffled around somewhat. In other words, we probably should hold off on these kind of worries until we actually see the game's finalized tech tree.

On the other hand, you could also watch that video from E3 and try to zoom in when Soren showed the tech tree. I couldn't make anything out, but maybe some of you might be able to do so.

 

[Darwin420]

Is this for sure, or could it be that Louis XIV is just more focused on culture while Napoleon is more focused on military, like as an AI-feature. Have anyone heard or seen anything about traits?

If hardwired traits are associated with leaders instead of civs they'd atleast covered themselves somewhat against discussion whether US is militaristic or not or whether the Mongols are aggressiv by nature. The traits are just tied to one leader and one certain part in history now, if this is the case.

I could have sworn they used the term 'traits' in the IGN interview (can't pull it up right now for some reason) to describe what the purpose of different leaders are. I'm sure it also covers foci of the various leaders, too.

 

[Colonel]

On the other hand, you could also watch that video from E3 and try to zoom in when Soren showed the tech tree. I couldn't make anything out, but maybe some of you might be able to do so.

Someone a little while ago made a tech tree based on the E3 video. But it wasnt complete as far as I know.

I believe that the ability to have multiple reilgons for one civ is one of the Civics options possibly.

 

[Dearmad]

That sounds liek a good idea- many civilizations allow multiple religions.

The LOS thing is also a good diea I think, since it makes sense people of one religion would travel back to their holy city and report on what they saw... All in all I like what they're doing with religion so far as I've heard.