Siegmund
King
Had kind of an unpleasant experience this afternoon, which I imagine some of you may have shared.
I was playing the Americans, had a continent to myself with the Chinese on the next island over to the east within galley range. They planted a city on my island to grab some unclaimed dyes so I drove them back off my continent then invaded theirs.
They and the Indians had several large cities close together, it was getting to be a long way from my capital, and I had a lot of jungle to cut down .... so it was convenient for me to bring their unhappy big cities down to size 1 or 2 by pop rushing workers. This war dragged on for a good 20 turns while I conquered 6 Chinese cities.
It got to be sort of a mechanical ritual with two galleys doing ferry service between Nanking and Buffalo: swordsmen east to kill more of Chinese, slaves west to be put to work cutting down my 100 squares of jungle and then popping temples in new small towns.
I quit having fun when I realized just how much the whole "armies east, slave labor west to be used and then disposed of so they don't cause unrest" reminded me of Poland and the Ukraine in the early 1940s. I guess I am supposed to say it's just a game and pat myself on the back for extracting maximum value out of a civilization that was otherwise useless to me ... but it gave me just a little bit TOO much insight into the "was Hitler a coldly calculation genius or just a raving lunatic or both" debate.
Let me be very clear, that I *don't* want this to be a thread about WWII - that can stay on the History forum. I just wondered if others have found the same thing happening in their Civ games / if there are certain strategies you know work but deliberatedly avoid using / if there are other episodes of history that you've found yourself seeing in a new light after playing Civ.
I was playing the Americans, had a continent to myself with the Chinese on the next island over to the east within galley range. They planted a city on my island to grab some unclaimed dyes so I drove them back off my continent then invaded theirs.
They and the Indians had several large cities close together, it was getting to be a long way from my capital, and I had a lot of jungle to cut down .... so it was convenient for me to bring their unhappy big cities down to size 1 or 2 by pop rushing workers. This war dragged on for a good 20 turns while I conquered 6 Chinese cities.
It got to be sort of a mechanical ritual with two galleys doing ferry service between Nanking and Buffalo: swordsmen east to kill more of Chinese, slaves west to be put to work cutting down my 100 squares of jungle and then popping temples in new small towns.
I quit having fun when I realized just how much the whole "armies east, slave labor west to be used and then disposed of so they don't cause unrest" reminded me of Poland and the Ukraine in the early 1940s. I guess I am supposed to say it's just a game and pat myself on the back for extracting maximum value out of a civilization that was otherwise useless to me ... but it gave me just a little bit TOO much insight into the "was Hitler a coldly calculation genius or just a raving lunatic or both" debate.
Let me be very clear, that I *don't* want this to be a thread about WWII - that can stay on the History forum. I just wondered if others have found the same thing happening in their Civ games / if there are certain strategies you know work but deliberatedly avoid using / if there are other episodes of history that you've found yourself seeing in a new light after playing Civ.