A Sid game.

[WackenOpenAir]

I started my first Sid game just now.

I have experience beating Civ3 on Deity, but that was another way of playing. I used to choose a normal size pangea map, build 30 warriors, upgrade them to swordsmen as soon as iron is available, then destroy my closest neighbour and bring the conquered ground to use with a forbidden palace. From there on, the game was one big war.

This game will be different though. The reason: With C3C, i am able to play my own proud nation, the Netherlands. Being a true and proud Dutchman, i felt the only right thing to do would be beating the game on the highest difficulty level, Sid.

I have created new games until i found an acceptable starting position and when i finaly had a river and food bonus, I founded Amsterdam right where i stood.

Now i saw different threads where people discuss games move by move, so i thought maybe some of you are interested in commenting on my game. I am not really organising things or anything, i will just include the safe file, and maybe we can have some discussions in here, feel free to comment and to play some if you want.

Dunno how you make pictures in the text, so i just uploaded it and added it like the SAV file. Hope it all works.

My plans:
worker: Mine SG to the left -> Road SG to the left -> Irrigate Wheat -> Road Wheat
City que: Warrior (or curragh?) -> Granary -> Settler -> Settler -> Settler etc
Research: @10%, Ceremonial Burial. (Goal = Monarchy).

Edit: Settings:
-Normal size
-archipellago 70%
-6 Opponents
-do not respawn
-no cultural linked positions
-no barbarians
-IA agression 2th level.
-And no spaceship victory, i hate spaceships.

 

[WackenOpenAir]

Wow Sid really seems to be much worse to me than Deity ever was. Or i forgot about how bad it was maybe. I am totally lost on the tech race, I guess 2 other seafaring nations might be a bit guilte to that.

Here my save games for the first 50 turns (1 save every 10 turns)

So tell me my chances of winning this (not too big i'm afraid)

 

[bingen]

The bright side is that your land grab has gone fairly well 6 cities and you will probably get a few more. And this with quite a lose packing, which I prefer as well, mainly for aesthetic reasons though. 10 lose cities on sid is very good and also I feel enough to win.

On the other hand your tech situation is quite bad. IMO what you did wrong was to not get minimun on writing at start, since you start with alphabet and pottery, the only essential early tech. In my experience this would not give you writing to sell around, except to the most isolated of civs, but it opens new oppurtunities. You can often buy Code of Laws, use it to get Mapmaking, then use these techs to get the missing tier one and two techs. Also, with this strategy one can usually make it first to literature and trade it around for huge profits. Instead you are researching the quite useless Mysticism.

I think there are 2 ways to go. Either try for the Great Library, possibly easier on Sid than Deity, but you have been wasting time getting there. If you get the library a win goes from remote to likely. Alternatively its aggression with Maths and catapults.

 

[WackenOpenAir]

yeah, i always did mysticism on deity and always had that whole bottom row first enabling me to trade well with it. Also did i expect too much of the being tech trader middle man thing. They seem to have enough contacts to trade amongst all of eachother before i can get in between.

So war it must be i guess, i don't expect myself to get the library (unless my neighbour builds it). Also since i am not alone on my island, it might be pretty good to make it like that. Since i cant trade them, my current tech is indeed the worst it could be with iron working i could at least have upgraded for some swordsmen (i read that is more expensive though now in c3c? how much will upgrading cost (was 40 in b4 c3c). with writing i would gain acces to many techs (to demand in peace negotiations).

 

[Lord Jimbob]

I would have taken a peep at your save files (1.00), WOA, but I'm on 1.22. (FYI to others who might be interested in taking a look at WOA's sid game...). Good luck, you're a brave one!

 

[WackenOpenAir]

No, it's 1.22

 

[bingen]

Upgrade are now 3 gold instead of 2 per shield of cost difference. So warriors to swordsmen would be 60 gold.

 

[Lord Jimbob]

No, it's 1.22

I'm sorry, I got it backwards- you're right. I haven't played C3C since my last re-install nightmare and I forgot to patch it!