I just was on another thread about ICS and realized:
Biowells could let you ICS to a ridiculous extent. So, if you want to ICS, biowells would actually allow you to do this quite effectively.
You can Rex and not care about Health at all, don't really see why you'd need to biowell everything up. ^^ I think it's even counter-productive, Rexxing at this times already gives you everything you need, thanks to trade routes, without having to spend any time growing your empire. Rexxing like crazy AND growing the empire seems to be way way too slow, compared with the victory times that pure expansion spam + Acadamies/Generators give you, at least that's the conclusion I got from my limited playtesting.
this is not correct.
Tile MUST be worked in order to provide bonus health. 100% checked.
I play Biowell spam on Apollo as Brasillia Harmony now, combined with SC spam early in the game those things deliver.
I going mainly for never ending rex and conquest, so health is the issue.
In long term, you can benefit from BW more, because you can city spam/conquer and there will be no cap for your growth and TR spam. More cities = more buildings and TR
I think you didn't understand me. What I'm saying is that, even with all the negative modifiers, rexxing and ignoring the whole health-nonsense is still the more effective way to play right now. You just don't need big cities, because you get production from trade routes, gold and science from trade routes, improvements and spies. If you seriously rexx like there's no tomorrow, then there's just no way to stay at +20 or more, unless you go for full prosperity in which case you'll still have a period of time where you'll be at negative health until the -25% kick in - and at that point you don't need to spam biowells, the bonus + health-buildings will get you back to positive if you really want to... but again... that's, in general, a waste of time, because at that point the game should already be entering the final phase and %-bonuses you get aren't really going to accumulate anymore. Pure, direct science from Academies will just steamroll you to your victory.Again, it depends on how low the health actually goes.
Even in what I said above, I sort of implied that the health system is way less punishing than Civ V happiness was, so I don't entirely disagree with you. However, if you get to -20 or lower, it really does become a problem because, IIRC, at -20 and lower you get not only the -20 penalty but also the penalty from -19 to -10.
In other words, the penalties to culture and science are cumulative rather than one replacing the other as you cross thresholds.
Further, because you get a good boost by being +20 or higher, it would make sense to try and maximize health simply to get the % modifiers that boost science and culture and whatever else.
So, while it may not mean having to truly spam bio-wells, there's definitely incentive to build enough to be +20 in health or higher for as long as you can while expanding, if for no other reason than to speed up science significantly and win quicker.
I think the game is relatively well balanced and that is one of its strong points and that many of these things are not massively overpowered compared to others.
I think you didn't understand me. What I'm saying is that, even with all the negative modifiers, rexxing and ignoring the whole health-nonsense is still the more effective way to play right now. You just don't need big cities, because you get production from trade routes, gold and science from trade routes, improvements and spies. If you seriously rexx like there's no tomorrow, then there's just no way to stay at +20 or more, unless you go for full prosperity in which case you'll still have a period of time where you'll be at negative health until the -25% kick in - and at that point you don't need to spam biowells, the bonus + health-buildings will get you back to positive if you really want to... but again... that's, in general, a waste of time, because at that point the game should already be entering the final phase and %-bonuses you get aren't really going to accumulate anymore. Pure, direct science from Academies will just steamroll you to your victory.
If you want to stay smaller, sure, then staying healthy might actually become a viable option... but such a playstyle just isn't as effective in general.