After much thinking about it...best Civ in the game: British!

[Riso]

Well, technically the "Tiger Panzer" is based off the Russian T-34.

And you needed about three Sherman tanks (also called Tommy-cooker because the engines tended to overheat) to match one Tiger.

So, yes, the Panzer has to get an strength upgrade.

 

[RomanLegatus]

I think you are wrong it certain areas and right in other. Obviously you dont think the modern tanks are nothing more than the same thing in 1943 but with a new paint job. Well, I'm not even going to start with that... That's absurd. Give me an example of how a Panzer could take out a M1Abram.

I do agree on the fact that Americans did design the game and so on... I am an American, and I get what your saying about the enitre thing. Also I agree with the Man-O-War being pretty much usless in the game.

 

[knowltok]

A question: Wasn't the Leopard tank used by the West Germans during the cold war? Are you perhas refering to the Panther tanks used by the nazis? The Tigers and Panthers were some of the best tanks in the war, tank for tank. They had problems with maintanence and manufacture. The engineers kept refining their designs and thus there never was a single tank made in massive quantities. The Russians went the opposite route with the T-34 and built massive numbers of them.

 

[fsume93]

To clear up the Persian question. Persians are decendants of the Germanic Tribes. They aren't Arab, but yes they are mostly Muslim.

Also, German tank superiority is Relative, as are most things in life. Military doctrines changed to deal with the strengths of the German armor. They werent so 'superior' once different strategies were employed against them. German tank design also changed as WW2 went on, no more light, fast armor. The later designs became slow, heavy behemoths.

 

[Maugan]

I think they do a good job with the Panzer. It is true that tank for tank, the Germans had a way stronger design going on. Their production, however, was not up to the impossible task of producing these many different complicated designs with the same speed and efficency that the British and Americans were 'cookie-cutter' building their tank forces. I think some of the later Tiger designs were phenomonal for the time, but less than 20 of some of these super-models were built. I think their advantage in power but disadvantage in numbers and standardization balanced out to about the same ammount of power on the battlefield. The tactics of the Germans are what kept their tanks fueled and alive, or empty and dead. Therefore I like the fact that the combat stats of panzers are the same, but the moves are highter. I would MUCH rather have 1 more move point (which is a 50% bonus from normal tank, and gives the Germans the earlyest 2 attack/turn unit in the game,) rather than a couple points on attack or defense.

 

[Blackdragon]

i agree

but i think there should be a chance for an elite panzer to take out a standart modern armor tank.

i fact the Nazi-german war technologie was that high that we can thnak god for allied air supriority (V2, werner von braun)

 

[spork]

I really don't think the Great Library is so great. I mean, it becomes useless as soon as get "education" which will not be long after you build the thing. You're much better off using your shields for the Art of War, or, if you really want commerce and you're playing continents, the Great Lighthouse! It means you get a very long time in which you are the sole civ to have contacts on a different continent. If they are scientifically ahead, you buy their stuff and sell it back to your neighbors for a heavy profit, and if they are behind, you can make them your *****es by regularly selling them just enough so they're ALMOST caught up. Anyway, my point is, there are much better projects than the Great Library.

 

[spork]

I thought I was posting to an entirely different thread; please ignore the posting above! Sorry about that. :crazyeyes

 

[SvenSlayer]

Hmm...I like the Germans: a perfect blend of my two favourite abilities.

I would play for the English but I hate being called Madam!