Airplanes Rebasing

[zarakand]

I was playing a game a few days ago where I attempted to rebase my aircraft outside of my borders, but found that this was not possible. I wanted to place it in a City-State that was allied with me, and this city state was within the boundary of air craft movement.

Are we only able to base aircraft in our own cities and need aircraft carriers for better range?

 

[Revoran]

Yes.

However your idea of basing aircraft in allied city states strikes me as very awesome and you should put it in the ideas an suggestions forum. Seriously, best idea i've heard all day. If you lose allied status with the city state then you should be forced to rebase the aircraft immediately.

You can however rebase to double your mission range which makes sense.

This wasn't what you meant but obviously if there is a city of yours not connected to your borders you can still rebase in it, even if it's on an island, it just has to be your city.

See, allied city states (and civs you have open borders with) already let you move land and sea troops through their territory, but there are many instances in history of allies letting each other base aircraft inside each other's borders - ie the US has a ton of airforce bases around the world in nations allied with them etc.

 

[Melchizel]

I totally agree with this suggestion!

 

[GenericPlayer]

I think at least allowing allied city states to function as airbases is reasonable. In the real world we see this all the time, city states like Bahrain, Qatar, Djibouti and so on all have vast military bases that play host to foreign powers.

From a gameplay perspective it offers more options. In one game I had a gap between 2 cities I could not move aircraft between, so I had to invade and occupy Hanoi just so I could use it as a transit station. It was an ocean gap and Hanoi was the only island in between, so creating my own city was not an option.

With regards to allies (non-CS), I would like to see some sort of 'lease' agreement. Basically you ask the AI if you can base aircraft at a specific city and offer GPT for the privilege.

I know its off topic, but when will we see Airbase tile improvements like the ones in CTP? Or is there a licensing/royalty issue that prevents Civ from implementing ideas from other games? In Civ IV we could use forts, but that is not the case with forts or citadels in Civ V

 

[Polish]

Absolutely, you should be able to rebase to allied CS. In IV you could base aircraft in Vassal State cities; only makes sense to allow rebasing in allied CS, especially if you limit rebasing to aircraft range. You are currently allowed to heal ships and upgrade units in allied CS so why not base aircraft? Also does not make sense to me not to allow rebasing to double the range of the aircraft since the planes will not be returning--one way mission should be twice as long.

 

[zarakand]

Absolutely, you should be able to rebase to allied CS. In IV you could base aircraft in Vassal State cities; only makes sense to allow rebasing in allied CS, especially if you limit rebasing to aircraft range. You are currently allowed to heal ships and upgrade units in allied CS so why not base aircraft? Also does not make sense to me not to allow rebasing to double the range of the aircraft since the planes will not be returning--one way mission should be twice as long.

I love the idea of buying airplane basing rights with City-States or civilizations. It should be something like an open borders treaty, but let it be expensive and have negative happiness consequences for the Civ selling the airbase access.

For example, Americans have airbases all over the world. In many of these places, the local population does not want the airbase to be there. However, they continue to exist for a variety of reasons which are irrelevant on a gaming forum. I would love to see this built into Civ V.