Anyone find Poland remarkably powerful ?
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Securion
Civ Veteran
The UU seems nice, but the UB must be a joke. My guess is they made it that way to make fun of polish people. No really.
The UB is amazing considering how tight gold is in the early game now. Gold, production and upgraded horsemen to hunt the overaggressive barbs, what's not to love?
Jon the Bastard
Warlord
I played a game as them... they were my second BNW civ. However, there wasn't a single horse resource anywhere near me, so I never had occasion to take a closer look at the UB. I know it gives +1
for every Horse and Sheep resource you're working (in addition to the production boost from the regular stables building), but does it do anything else? Any special promotion to cavalry units, or at least a further decrease to the amount of time it take to build cavalry units?northernscribe
Chieftain
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Played Poland in my first game. the free SP with each era totally rocks. I got six policies out of it (classical, medieval, renaissance, industrial, modern, atomic) before I overwhelmed the world with bluejeans and pop music. I didn't use the hussars. Didn't need them.
HeraldtheGreat
King
In about every game I've played, Poland is a superpower hell-bent on almost every victory, one of the leads in tech, DOWing all his neighbors, controlling World Congress and even producing some decent tourism. Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me?
EDIT: Derpity derp, made this thread at the exact same time as someone else.
EDIT: Derpity derp, made this thread at the exact same time as someone else.
HeraldtheGreat
King
I made a thread like this at the exact same time as you. XD
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werothegreat
Warlord
Playing as France for my first game, Poland swiftly took out Assyria, followed by Portugal, and beat me to several wonders, and always led in Science. They have been my main competitor for most of the game, and have the second highest Tourism, though that's probably because they stole Assyria's and Portugal's Great Works and Wonders.
turingmachine
Emperor
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People complaining about the UU and UB:
The UB:
+1 Gold from Pastures
+15 XP for Mounted Units
-25% Production Cost
No Maintenance Cost
The UU:
+3 Strength
+1 Movement
Free Shock I Promotion (+15% Rough Terrain)
Heavy Charge (force retreat/extra damage if can't retreat) ability.
It's really insane how many bonuses both the UU and UB get considering how strong the UA already is.
The UB:
+1 Gold from Pastures
+15 XP for Mounted Units
-25% Production Cost
No Maintenance Cost
The UU:
+3 Strength
+1 Movement
Free Shock I Promotion (+15% Rough Terrain)
Heavy Charge (force retreat/extra damage if can't retreat) ability.
It's really insane how many bonuses both the UU and UB get considering how strong the UA already is.
iRule
Warlord
Just from playing the demo I have the feeling that Poland has to be nerfed down. Still, they didn't manage to beat Brazil... which would have won a cultural victory if it wasn't Shaka and me, what with starting with a load of luxury goods around Rio. So maybe they don't have to be nerfed down after all. If a cultural victory wasn't harder than most Brazil would definitely need to be toned down.
werothegreat
Warlord
Prince! I've only ever seen Alexander, Napoleon or Hiawatha pull off nonsense like that.
Do the policies count against culture?? If so you may want to delay advancing just a little to each new era... About to give em a try. My first was with Shoshone. So far BNW seems kinda slow... on standard speed, Pangaea, Emperor I stopped on T130 having played 5 hours and no one even in the Renaissance yet!!
Ok, crazy... just found out that it doesn't increase policy costs!! Great Library to philo
Ok, crazy... just found out that it doesn't increase policy costs!! Great Library to philo
In my first game Poland had a ton of cities, built and beat a lot of ppl to several wonders, had the biggest army, one of the best tourism, and was cultureally strong too. Only thing they didnt have is religion!
Something about their formula has broken the curve.
Something about their formula has broken the curve.
Tyrvos
Cu Chulainn
In my first game, Poland was top dog, only did it on difficulty 4 to get the hang of it. They had the most wonders, and were dominating in military and culture until they attacked me (Morocco defense is insane btw). They definitely seem like an aggressive AI and the Unique's are all powerful.
Mrdarklight
Warlord
I'm playing as Indonesia, and on turn 226 (Epic speed) Poland is 530 to my 341. Pachacuti is 462. He's grabbed several wonders from me. Playing Emperor.
werothegreat
Warlord
DAMMIT. Poland just beat me! He snuck in a science victory just as I was about to win a culture victory! I had a GM on the way and everything! ;_;
PixelDirigible
Chieftain
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I played Poland on my first go-through and it was SUPER powerful. I was going for a Culture victory but only figured out how that worked in the Modern era or so, so I ended up with like 300%+ cultural influence over 2 of the civs and the 1 that was left was so hard to influence that I ended up just conquering them to win the game. Weird way to get a cultural victory-- it felt kind of imperialistic and horrible-- but by the end I had so many social policies I started buying up Honor because why not?
Martinus
Emperor
The UB is really powerful, I agree, but I think you are wrong with the no terrain requirement - I remember distinctively that I could not build the Ducal Stable without actually having an *improved* pasture in the city radius.
In any case, Poland having a passive UA makes the AI Poland stronger, as passive abilities are generally better than the ones that require a more elaborate strategy (like, say, Indonesia).
