Astronomy Now

[Provolution]

Astronomy Now

We already own and militarily dominate our own island. We do not need cavalry when we already got the best army. What we don't have, is a navy.


I would urge to make a new technology repoll, and go for Liberalism now, with Astronomy as bonus tech.

We get access to observatories, transoceanic trades and galleons. We need galleons to get islands, and that race already started.

Forget the horsies, these are for women, not mongols. We already got keshiks and knights that go for plenty.

I would confront a dubious technology poll this time with extreme prejudice, so do not dare to set up anything dodgy. My patience is at an end.

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[DaveShack]

The people have chosen Democracy, and fairly strongly. I don't get where this "cavalry" thing is coming from, only one person voted for Military Tradition.

Now, if you really mean we should research Liberalism immediately and take the best tech available now, then say that. Don't cloud the picture with the Cavalry argument, or even with needing a navy. Our only shot is to research Liberalism immediately and that means we have to take what we can get.

 

[mike6426]

I agree with the overall statement about how we should research liberalism and use astronomy as the free tech, even though the presentation is vague. There is a possibility that Inca could be researching liberalism at this very moment, and getting the free tech should be a priority.

 

[Nobody]

Didnt the mongols have a bad record at sailing?

 

[dutchfire]

I would agree with researching Liberalism now, and picking Astronomy, but for the observatories, not for the ships.

 

[Provolution]

Sorry for being unclear, but for all of the options, Observatories, ocean trade AND ships. Ships is part of the reason, but astronomy gives us the entire scope.

And your analysis is right on spot, Liberalism is now or never.

 

[Joe Harker]

I don't get where this "cavalry" thing is coming from, only one person voted for Military Tradition.

It's coming from the fact that i would want more cavalry in the army than he would, I think .

 

[dutchfire]

Which btw is a good idea, as cavalry will greatly help us in a war against Rome.

 

[fed1943]

AFAIK, the problem is we need Liberalism - as we always needed - and now we
have beakers invested in Nationalism, so the most expensive tech we can grab
is Astronomy.
Annoying!
Best regards,

 

[Provolution]

Not annoying at all, rather needed. At least the Gods show some brawn here.

 

[HUSch]

So have we an poll with the result democracy and a diskussion with the result astronomy, because the poll is invalid or why? I don't understand it.

i've said in my post that astro is a good and valuable tech for liberalism and so my opinion is right in the end, i get nothing for it, if the majority want another, then it will be another.
This is for me like the discussion between donsig and Dave at the turn at 9. Juli, then it was 2 polls with different exit.

 

[mike6426]

The poll was made, and voted on, without the knowledge that the Inca have the ability to research liberalism. Now, with that knowledge, we (the people for astronomy) all believe that liberalism should be researched immediately (so that the Inca do not get the free tech) and that we should get astronomy as the free tech.

Maybe someone (the new chief scientist *wink wink*) should repoll the issue with the new information.

 

[dutchfire]

We should definetly repoll

 

[DaveShack]

Definitely repoll.

This is a perfect example of a reason the Constitution was set up to allow an initiative to supercede an earlier initiative. Once upon a demogame, long long ago, we had some powerful citizens who thought once a decision was made that it was permanent. We made sure that wouldn't be a problem in this game.

We need to do more than just switch to Liberalism. Since another tech was chosen and the turn ended, the surplus from the last tech rolled into Nationalism instead of into Liberalism. The current time to completion is 5 turns, not the 3 turns which was previously reported! I think a crash project needs to be started immediately, changing the micromanagement of all cities to maximize beakers and going negative GPT to get Liberalism in as short a time as possible. I'd even suggest switching all specialists to science that we can, and even switching to wealth.

 

[fed1943]

It's done,it's done.
But I do not understand why that change from Liberalism to Nationalism.
Please, do not say it was to follow the poll: to obey it, the change could be
in the turn previous to the research of the tech.
But all good, no problems.
Best regards,

 

[Provolution]

Always good to be alone in the first vote, then win.