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When you guys say razed barbarian camp, you mean between Genoa and Munich? I thought it was too far away from my cap for a second city :/

Can you guys say what are your priorities when choosing places to settle? I went for the natural wonder and placed on a hill for production, but it didn't end well. I think I'll load the t1 save and try to replay the game in a better way.

Oh, and about stealing workers from a CS: when do workers spawn? It's when the city gets to 3 citizens, or is it random?
And I noticed Germany thinks I'm a warmongering menace (even before the war), is it because I stole a worker?

We all put the priorities in different order.
For me, city placement begins with defendable hill on a river and will get a lux within the 3 ring. I try to have a max of 6 tiles between cities, and find 4-5 optimal for tall empires.

I avoid plains tiles like the plague.
I avoid settling more than 1 city on a coast even on water maps.
Jungles are good for 3rd or 4th cities. They are slow to get going so its generally better to settle them earlier than later. They do very nicely once going for science
 
I don't get how you guys get 2 nice cities so quickly. I restarted my game and went Scout - Worker - Granary (could be settler but my city didn't have much food) - then I thought it wasn't worth producing a Settler straight after the Granary so went Shrine - Stonehenge, and I'm gonna buy the Settler. Would it be better to produce the Settler before the Granary? Then I'd have 2 small cities, didn't look like a good idea. Going Tradition.

Got the gold to buy Settler at t50, bought it. Gonna put him north next to a nice lake and some hills with Cattle.
 
Skip the shrine if you build Stonehenge, get it later.
I find tradition opening BO goes best as scout/monument/scout or scout/scout/monument. Going scout/monument/scout pretty much guarantees that you will not get a free monument if you get unlucky and step on two culture ruins.
manually work only food tiles, there is nothing in the early BO that needs a hammer tile until you start library and even three you should still be growth focused.

Build a settler after you are at 4pop or above. Work every hammer tile you have - you can not starve when making a settler.

granary will usually be better than worker early depending on the map, but early worker is very important.
 
When you guys say razed barbarian camp, you mean between Genoa and Munich? I thought it was too far away from my cap for a second city :/

Can you guys say what are your priorities when choosing places to settle? I went for the natural wonder and placed on a hill for production, but it didn't end well. I think I'll load the t1 save and try to replay the game in a better way.

Oh, and about stealing workers from a CS: when do workers spawn? It's when the city gets to 3 citizens, or is it random?
And I noticed Germany thinks I'm a warmongering menace (even before the war), is it because I stole a worker?

On lower levels don't steal CS workers; the diplo penalty is not worth the gain because the AI has no bonuses. Also, the barb camp I mentioned is 4 tiles from Shanghai right next to the mountain.
 
Yeah, the barb camp is the one west of Shanghai next to the mountain and the river. That would've been good placement. Mountain for the observatory, river for the river stuff (garden, water mill). Plus you get more grassland (more food) and less desert, which gives you virtually nothing. You already have one desert city, your capital. That one is ok, because there is an incense, a desert hill (which gives you production) and an oasis, which provides fresh water for irrigation purposes. With Petra built, those desert tiles can be pretty productive. The desert tiles Shanghai gets are all flat desert, which give you nothing whatsoever. That's dead space, and since you can only build one Petra, that's a terrible location. This is why Shanghai isn't growing. Also, if you put one worker working grand mesa, that's one guy who's not producing any food. For a city with low population supporting one worker who produces no food is a heavy burden. You want to avoid working the grand mesa until your city at least has a good population so that it can continue to grow even if someone is not making any food.

I suspect if you scout a little more, you can probably settle another city south of grand mesa, which will still give you the benefit of the NW and also more productive tiles. I see there are some mountains there, but are there grassland or other things?

I think priorities for settling are as follows: good sources of food, at least one unique luxury (that you don't already have), hopefully good hammer source, defensibility, not necessarily in that order - you might need a production heavy city, or a city to hold off a choke point, so priorities change depending on the map. Neither Barrington crater or grand mesa are particularly attractive - they're nice, but not worth sacrificing a lot to get, IMO, unless you're Spain, which you're not.
 
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