"Beta" Massive WW2 scenario

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

Sweden Naval OOB:

Panzerschiffe:

Gustav V, Drottning Victoria, Sverige, Oscar II,
Manligheten, Tapperheten and Aran. = 7

Light Cruisers:
Gotland and Fylgia. = 2

Destroyers: Clas Fleming, Malmo,Karlskrona, Goteborg,
Stockholm, Romulus, Remus, Klas Uggla, Klas Horn,
Ehrenskold, Nordenskjold, Psilander,Puke, Wrangel,
Wachtmeister, Munin, Hugin, Vidar, Sigurd, Ragnar and
Wale. =21

Submarines:Sjobjornen, Sjohunden, Sjolejonet, Delfinen,
Nordkaparen, Springaren,Draken, Gripen, Ulven, Valen,
Bavern, Illern, Uttern, Hajen, Salen and Valrossen = 16

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

Thanks Rocoteh I made the updates and put up 3.6 with the rest of the Italian ground forces, but still need to do their mainland and North Africa air forces. After that I think they should be all done. Also added in the Sweden navy from the list you provided.

 

[Meateater]

I dug up this for the Italian air forces
Regia Aeronautica in April 1939 could field ~1,760 aircraft, of
which only 900 are considered to be "front-line machines".

Regia Aeronautica 1940 ( <- Note the year 1940 )

Fiat C.R.32
177

Fiat C.R.42
143

Fiat G.50
118

Macchi C.200
144

Breda 65
154

Breda 88
81

S.M.81
293

S.M.79
612

B.R.20
172

Ca 309/310/311
280

C.Z.501/506
198

others
~700

Total
~3000

Main fighter and bombers in sep 1939 were (fighters) CR-32, CR-42, G-50, and C-200, (bombers) SM-79,
BR-20, (dive bomber) Ba-65

If this looks good then I will add it in the next update and if there is anything you want to comment on/add here feel free too.

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

It looks very good.

I know that hisorian Marc Miller once pointed out that
Italian pilots during WWII were very competent.

He pointed that out since the fact that so many Italian
infantry units had low morale have made people
think ALL Italians fought with low morale.

That is not true. During the first debacle in the desert
the Italian artillery-crews fought bravely to the last man,
refusing to surrender.


Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

Ok thanks I will add in the Italian air forces for the next update 3.7. If all the forces in North Africa were the 2 infantry divisions then should most of the air forces be on the main land, with only one or two units in North Africa? 900 air craft would be 18 in game air units, with 6 allready placed in East Africa. That leaves 12 and if 2 go to North Africa then that would be 10 for the main land.

With the Air forces added it should complete the Italian military.

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

Clarification: The 2 Infantry Divisions were the
Colonial forces. There were also 4 Regular Divisions
in North Africa.

Regular units in North Africa:

Sabratha Inf Div
Sirte Inf Div
20 Corps Artillery Reg

Marmarica Inf Div
Cirene Inf Div
21 Corps Artillery Reg

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

Cool thanks made the changes for 3.7 with the air force and North Africa forces added for the Italian milatary. I may add in 3 or 4 more aircraft for them on the main land in the next update.

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

Italys forces in Albania:

Centauro Armored Division
Venezia Infantry Division
Ferrara Infantry Division
Arrezzo Infantry Division
Julia Mountain Division
26 Corps Artillery Regiment

I hope I can deliver remaining OOB for Sweden and OOB
for Denmark later today or tomorrow.

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

Sweden OOB continued.

1 Infantry Division
3 Infantry Division
4 Infantry Division
5 Infantry Division
6 Infantry Division
1 Cavalry Brigade
8 Mot. Infantry Brigade

Edit: Hard to research. Many contradicting sources.

Air Force:

50xJu86K
50xGladiator I

Denmark:

1 Infantry Division near Copenhagen
1 Infantry Division at Jutland

Air Force: Planes splitted between Army and Navy, to
few to count as 1 unit.

Navy:

Panzerschiffe:

Niels Juel and Peder Skram =2

Submarines:

Havmanden, Havfruen, Havkalen,Daphne, Dryaden,
Bellona, Flora, Rota, Galathea, Ran, Triton. =11

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

Thanks Rocoteh
I added in the units from your last two posts for Italy, Sweden, and Denmark and put up version 3.8

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

I will download 3.8

Which nation do you think should be next on the list?

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

If you think the militaries that have been placed are correct and finished for these countries then we can start on the next one.

I had not had one in mind but I have had this spitfire picture on my desktop for a while, so how does the British sound. I know that this is a big one to do, so maybe we can do the Royal forces first and then the common wealth nations after or later.

Let me know what you think and any ideas you have.

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

That sounds like a very good idead.

Then we start with the Royal forces.
I guess the Air Force will be the most difficult aspect.
The Air Forces often are that in my opinion.

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

Basic stats for The Royal Navy:

12xBB
3xBC
7xCV
13xCA
47xCL
179xDD
60xSS

I think we shall be able to track the names
of all these ships.

Again: The Royal Air Force will demand most in
research time.

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

Ok then G.B. it will be.
I have battle groupings with names and locations for the BB's and BC's ( just checked it and there are 12 BB's and 3 BC's so its good ) . I will see if I can find the rest. I agree the Air forces will be a little harder.

I know of some good sites for G.B ( and the common wealth ) so I think you are right we can find all the names and groupings for the other ships. Found some stuff on the Royal air arm too so let me get back to you on that.

Sounds good to me

 

[scottskingdom]

Meateater can't get it to load

have civ3 with newest patch, conquests with newest patch- never bought play the world because I just recently bought a new faster computer and just then bought civ3.

plus I downloaded the PTW WWII units at

http://www.ccj39.com/woc.com/gameshtml/civ3_14.php



and TETarkhan mod -correctly structured them under Civ3PTW\extras\ World War II\Art\Units and Civ3PTW\Scenarios\TETurkhan respectively.

Should I download PTW newest patch (1.27) since I skipped buying it and bought Conquests??? (I have no idea)

my computer successfully loads up Pheonix's WWII,Aeldrik's WWII, Mharly's WW3,WW2-1941AD and all TETarkhan. I could not get at official civ3 site some of other files in their zip download center listed as free files from PTW as there zips are all corrupt! (others have posted this complaint as well)

running Compaq Presario Athlon AMD 2000+\ 1.6 Mh , 768ram,dual 40GbHD,NVIDIA.

game sets up for 1 hour 10min. then kicks out to desktop.

any ideas?

I'm not a computer expert so please be specific.

Thanks!

 

[scottskingdom]

my bad.....realized I wasnt loading correctly....now I have PTW version under civ content listings (nice map)..... but under conquests it now doesnt kick me off to desktop but instead shows loading error : missing entry in "Text\Pedialcons.txt": ANIMNAME_PRTO_German_Infantry
I havent ever used\learned editor so I dont know where to go to correct this....been to busy with work and kids...

Rocoteh since youre play testing is 8 turns\weeks correct for all youve conquered- I cant remember how long it took Germany to conquer France? Is this game correct in terms of unit movement to hex size (scale) to turns? France seems a hair narrow to get from Germanys\Frances border to Atlantic... again though it's been a while since I played Avalon's Third Reich hexboard game or Panzer General...


I will try out PTW version but would like conquest version with locked alliances- what must I do? (I already followed your conquest install instructions on overwriting\placing the 4 files....)

:tank: :ripper:

 

[Rocoteh]

scottskingdom,

If you download and copy the PediaIcons-file into the Text-folder
WW2 TheWorld I think it will solve the problem.

It can be a good idea to make a back-up copy
of the Text-folder first.

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[scottskingdom]

Rocoteh whats youre opinion on above posts question i asked you? (I edited)

 

[Rocoteh]

scottskingdom,

Germany launched the attack on the West-front
May 10 and cease-fire was signed June 22, thus six weeks.

Although it was more than 10 years ago I played
Avalon Hills: The Third Reich I think this scenario
is more realistic in most aspects.

John Prados (Designer of TheThird Reich) did the
assumption that France could have hold out 18 months.

I do not agree on that. In this scenario one should be
able to defeat France within 10-12 weeks, which I think
is more realistic.

Edit: Should you still have problems with loading, I
hope you return and I or Meateater will give
support until scenario runs.

When the scenario runs I also hope you come
back with comments. This scenario like 90% of
the scenarios here needs more posters.
More posters make the thread more interesting.



Best Regards

Rocoteh