dominatr
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Alright, so i start saying here that if you need a good strategy on a bigger map, i have the answer for you. Using civassist II is very recommended.
Ok so the beginning is very important. You MUST find contacts fast. After you find them, start trading away. Your first tech should be Alphabet (or in my case Pottery, because in my mod, this allows scouts). Make sure you settle well, and build city defenses, but you must make a LOT of scouts/warriors to go find contacts/pop goody huts.
The way you need to trade is if a tech is avalable, trade as little gold possible for it. You may substitute technologies for gold in this case. Try to rob as much gold as possible also. Example
Other civ- 50 Gold, Mysticism, Me- 200 Gold Iron Working
Although it seems tempting to leave them behind in tech, you want to milk them for money, because this will pay off big time. In this case, Give IW for Mysticism and all the Gold.
You are researching alphabet because its sets you up for the later scheme of the Ancient Age
Once you get Alphabet, research Writing. Writing is THE MOST IMPORTANT TECH in this age, according to this strategy. I'll show you why in a bit.
When trading, continue to apply the gold robbery method. You will stack up a TON of gold and whenever an AI has a tech for offer, buy it and sell it to whoever has decent gold to give you. Don't bother trading techs to the weak, as this will hot make you rich. CivAssist can alert you when new techs are available, so you can be first to trade for it. This way, you may not be AHEAD, but the goal is to not be behind, because if you are behind, you have to spend a lot to catch up and you kind of are trapped for a bit.
When you get writing, the fun begins. Go to all your AI's and get all of their contacts. Give them techs if you are ahead (should be with this method) However, if you aren't, trade gold, but keep it minimal. NEVER trade a contact. This way, you can keep the AI's isolated and make yourself the central power. Continue trading for techs and whatnot, getting as much money as you can.
At this point, you should be able to max your slider and hurry to Map Making. You should already have most of the techs, except Polytheism, Construction, Currency, CoL, Philosophy, Monarchy, Literature, and Republic. Your AI's should continue to provide you money, which supports your slider. Around this point i had 2000 gold, and this is only the begging stages here.
Okay, maps are a very important thing also. Instead of having a withholding maps, make robbery trades with the AI, for example
AI- 70g, World Map, Me- 2300g Horseback Riding, Writing, World Map
The choice here would be, sell World Map for World Map and 70g.
To maximize your profit, start by trading to the weakest AI's to make your World Map value go up. Take whatever gold they have. Then work your way up and trade maps with everyone, don't leave anyone out, because if you do, eventually, someone else will make the profit you could have made. Of course, if you have the largest territory, the order doesn't matter, since your Map would be worth more anyway.
The next piece you need to control is Literature. Chances are, the AI will be struggling and feel no need to research it. Get the tech, but don't trade it yet. The AI will be broke from the Map trading, and they will still be isolated via contact monopoly, so you just expand your empire and wait while they make money and get techs. Whenever a tech comes up, trade a small mount of money for it, and then sell the tech for maximum profit. Don't give them literature, instead, get libraries built everywhere (use money to rush if you want, you'll need to money/science benefit for later) (Also, You could build The Great Library, but this part is optional and maybe not a good idea, but its better to have it than to let an AI have it, and catch up to you)
You should be super rich by now, so hurry through Poly and Monarchy.
Besides monarchy being an awesome Monopoly tech to get those last few techs before the middle ages, you get in a new government before anyone else, because you just withhold it while everyone is still researching map making and the lesser late ancient age techs. You will get everything else necessary if you do this correctly, so don't worry about anything except the ones i spoke about here.
Continue robbing the AI of their money, and by now they should be meeting eachother, and you no longer have the contact monopoly. But, you have monarchy which is even greater. Go through revolt into monarchy, trade for techs, rob, settle, build libraries, whatever you want. Once you shop around, make a lot of money and stuff, you should hit Middle ages somewhere in there.
For the early middle ages, i recommend researching Feudalism and cash rushing some medieval infantry and pikes, then kill off your neighbors which may be in anarchy as a aftershock of your trading, (they just got it so they want to revolt, leaving them very weak) As you wreck your crippled neighbors, and conquer territory. Keep applying the money thing to rush libraries, universities, and whatnot. From there, just hurry to Military Tradition and go kill everybody.
Well, there it is so far, please tell me what you think, test it out, see how it goes.
I worked hard on this, and it worked well for me, so just give it a shot
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decided to throw this in real quick, if you get a SGL from the Philo thing or maybe first to monarchy, use it to rush a quick wonder for a golden age during this time. A mid ancient GA is GREAT since it is the time you build the foundation of your civ.
Ok so the beginning is very important. You MUST find contacts fast. After you find them, start trading away. Your first tech should be Alphabet (or in my case Pottery, because in my mod, this allows scouts). Make sure you settle well, and build city defenses, but you must make a LOT of scouts/warriors to go find contacts/pop goody huts.
The way you need to trade is if a tech is avalable, trade as little gold possible for it. You may substitute technologies for gold in this case. Try to rob as much gold as possible also. Example
Other civ- 50 Gold, Mysticism, Me- 200 Gold Iron Working
Although it seems tempting to leave them behind in tech, you want to milk them for money, because this will pay off big time. In this case, Give IW for Mysticism and all the Gold.
You are researching alphabet because its sets you up for the later scheme of the Ancient Age
Once you get Alphabet, research Writing. Writing is THE MOST IMPORTANT TECH in this age, according to this strategy. I'll show you why in a bit.
When trading, continue to apply the gold robbery method. You will stack up a TON of gold and whenever an AI has a tech for offer, buy it and sell it to whoever has decent gold to give you. Don't bother trading techs to the weak, as this will hot make you rich. CivAssist can alert you when new techs are available, so you can be first to trade for it. This way, you may not be AHEAD, but the goal is to not be behind, because if you are behind, you have to spend a lot to catch up and you kind of are trapped for a bit.
When you get writing, the fun begins. Go to all your AI's and get all of their contacts. Give them techs if you are ahead (should be with this method) However, if you aren't, trade gold, but keep it minimal. NEVER trade a contact. This way, you can keep the AI's isolated and make yourself the central power. Continue trading for techs and whatnot, getting as much money as you can.
At this point, you should be able to max your slider and hurry to Map Making. You should already have most of the techs, except Polytheism, Construction, Currency, CoL, Philosophy, Monarchy, Literature, and Republic. Your AI's should continue to provide you money, which supports your slider. Around this point i had 2000 gold, and this is only the begging stages here.
Okay, maps are a very important thing also. Instead of having a withholding maps, make robbery trades with the AI, for example
AI- 70g, World Map, Me- 2300g Horseback Riding, Writing, World Map
The choice here would be, sell World Map for World Map and 70g.
To maximize your profit, start by trading to the weakest AI's to make your World Map value go up. Take whatever gold they have. Then work your way up and trade maps with everyone, don't leave anyone out, because if you do, eventually, someone else will make the profit you could have made. Of course, if you have the largest territory, the order doesn't matter, since your Map would be worth more anyway.
The next piece you need to control is Literature. Chances are, the AI will be struggling and feel no need to research it. Get the tech, but don't trade it yet. The AI will be broke from the Map trading, and they will still be isolated via contact monopoly, so you just expand your empire and wait while they make money and get techs. Whenever a tech comes up, trade a small mount of money for it, and then sell the tech for maximum profit. Don't give them literature, instead, get libraries built everywhere (use money to rush if you want, you'll need to money/science benefit for later) (Also, You could build The Great Library, but this part is optional and maybe not a good idea, but its better to have it than to let an AI have it, and catch up to you)
You should be super rich by now, so hurry through Poly and Monarchy.
Besides monarchy being an awesome Monopoly tech to get those last few techs before the middle ages, you get in a new government before anyone else, because you just withhold it while everyone is still researching map making and the lesser late ancient age techs. You will get everything else necessary if you do this correctly, so don't worry about anything except the ones i spoke about here.
Continue robbing the AI of their money, and by now they should be meeting eachother, and you no longer have the contact monopoly. But, you have monarchy which is even greater. Go through revolt into monarchy, trade for techs, rob, settle, build libraries, whatever you want. Once you shop around, make a lot of money and stuff, you should hit Middle ages somewhere in there.
For the early middle ages, i recommend researching Feudalism and cash rushing some medieval infantry and pikes, then kill off your neighbors which may be in anarchy as a aftershock of your trading, (they just got it so they want to revolt, leaving them very weak) As you wreck your crippled neighbors, and conquer territory. Keep applying the money thing to rush libraries, universities, and whatnot. From there, just hurry to Military Tradition and go kill everybody.
Well, there it is so far, please tell me what you think, test it out, see how it goes.
I worked hard on this, and it worked well for me, so just give it a shot
.decided to throw this in real quick, if you get a SGL from the Philo thing or maybe first to monarchy, use it to rush a quick wonder for a golden age during this time. A mid ancient GA is GREAT since it is the time you build the foundation of your civ.
