[BNW 1.0.3.279] Trading does not give diplomacy boost. Bug or feature?

[fcf12]

Trading a lux for a lux with another civ does not give the "We have traded recently" -10-30 diplo modifier. The only thing that seems to provide it is giving away a lux for free.

Not sure if this is intented but it seems like a bug to me, because the text should be fixed then to "We have recieved a gift recently". So either fix the tooltip text, or fix the modifier to trigger off a trade, atleast lux for lux.

 

[Browd]

Might be bugged phrasing, I suppose, but that bonus was nerfed early on to only apply where the trade includes some "gift" element (i.e., a trade where the AI pays less than it was prepared to pay and/or the AI receives more than it would insist on receiving). The diplo bonus starts at the equivalent of 1 gpt and rises from there.

 

[fcf12]

Might be bugged phrasing, I suppose, but that bonus was nerfed early on to only apply where the trade includes some "gift" element (i.e., a trade where the AI pays less than it was prepared to pay and/or the AI receives more than it would insist on receiving). The diplo bonus starts at the equivalent of 1 gpt and rises from there.

Do you know the cap on the bonus how many GPT? It says the minimum you can get is -10, so 1 horse/iron/1gpt/1gold? will give you -10?

 

[EndoConvert]

Trading a lux for a lux with another civ does not give the "We have traded recently" -10-30 diplo modifier. The only thing that seems to provide it is giving away a lux for free.

Not sure if this is intented but it seems like a bug to me, because the text should be fixed then to "We have recieved a gift recently". So either fix the tooltip text, or fix the modifier to trigger off a trade, atleast lux for lux.

Can confirm what Browd said. This is only a bug in the sense that the tooltip text is misleading; that there is no benefit is apparently by design. The bonus has always ONLY been given if the AI thinks it profited off the trade. Trading in itself gives no diplomatic benefit if the trade is even. Lux for a lux is an even trade and thus does not give the modifier.

 

[Izmir Stinger]

The awkward wording may be a legacy of the most important Diplo bonus from Civ 4, "Our trade relations have been fair and forthright," a bonus you got from trades that were decidedly UNFAIR... in the other civilization's favor.

 

[LordBalkoth]

Giving them 5 GPT every 30 turns basically keeps the modification at maximum, I believe.