both Zidane and Materazzi fined

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well, FIFA has not disappointed us, they made sure they live up to their reputation

1. What are these fines of a few thousand dollars meant to do? For them it's equivalent to me paying a fine of $5 maybe. :crazyeye:
Is that supposed to deter players from commiting those offenses?

2. Materazzi is banned for 2 games? What's the evidence here? This sets the sort of presedence FIFA will regret having set. So, from now every offender only needs to say he was insulted and it goes like 3-2 for the offender-victim. This is crazy in my mind, a can of worms has been openend...


I wonder how many more years do we need to tolerate this enemy of soccer or will he ever resign? :vomit:
 
2 games for Materazzi... ridiculous..
 
Completely ridiculous, though once again I'd like to know what Materazzi said to warrant such a ban.

From the BBC website, it's claimed that Zidane's match bans are to be converted into working for FIFA and doing community service with children, so it's not all silly.
 
Does seem as if Materazzi got the bigger punishment. What happens now if you insult someone on the pitch but they don't react? Do you still get a two match ban or is that only if the other player reacts?
 
This will not prevent players from doing the same in the future (insults AND headbutt). BTW, no one knows what would have happened if Zidane had stayed on the pitch until the end and if this incident hadn't happened, but if it helped Italy to win the match, then I say it was worth the few dollars and the 2-game suspension (all the more as Materazzi is the sub for Nesta !). So the France-Italy on September 6 won't be that hot...

All in all, nothing to see, people move on... And I'm left with an even bitter taste in my mouth about that final, since we don't know what was said exactly, and Zidane wasn't avenged like he wanted. To put it simply : all this media hype for that ?
 
Great! So the difference between a headbutt watched by millions of spectators and some unknown "honour offense" listened by 2 pairs of ears is €1600 and one game.
Now, will they suspend any player that allegedly offends another player's manly honour with two games too? If a player from a regional amateur leage complains "Referee sir! That gentleman has offended my honour!", will he get to go to a FIFA hearing to repsent the case, and will the other player get the suspension?
Will it be possible to use video evidence of when someone gets caught on the camera yelling "F*** off!", "Son of a *****!" or "I *****ed your mother yesterday!" to punish those football cancers?

This is one perfect example of FIFA's skewed justice. This only happened because the player in question is called Zidane.
 
MCdread said:
This is one perfect example of FIFA's skewed justice. This only happened because the player in question is called Zidane.
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Possibly also because it was the final, that he had won their award and that no one likes Materazzi. I do agree though that it is a total joke.

If Nesta stays fit then the net punishment will be a 0 match suspension both players and fines that probably don't even match a daily wage for either player.
 
materazzi should be given a medal and zidane should be made to say "sorry" to him. chain him up if he says no.
 
^ your insane :) But its ok, your more right than FIFA is at least.

This is...really...dumb.
 
Hill + Grease = slippery slope
 
Anyone not willing to let football evolve can be happy with this. Everything is great, it may happen again (but please, not in the final !! players should have better to do than insulting and headbutting in the final :cry: ). There are still many Zidane-like players everywhere to annoy (I'm talking about the sense of honour, not the technical skill), and there are still many Materazzi-like players everywhere for insults and bad spirit to continue. I guess that is what most people here want anyway, so : cheer up ! :D
 
materazzi must have said something fairly awful. Strikes me as similar to the Wright - Schmickle punch-up where everyone could read the lips of what he was saying and it was brushed under the carpet.
 
And you Europeans wonder why soccer doesn't catch on in the United States. If an NFL, NBA, MLB or NHL commissioner came up with that ruling, they wouldn't be commissioner after 24 hours.

And our commissioners aren't the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree, either.

So Materazzi insulted Zidane. Around here, that's called trash talk, considered part of the game, and you better learn to handle it if you don't want to be considered a total weenie.
 
help me understand why the finding against materazzi is stupid?

actually he commited of insulting zidane. so if he kept denying it and nobody else but zidane himself had witnessed the insult, he would still be a "free man".

in another case, if you insult a referee, you will get sanctioned for that with a card and whatever fine is suitable aswell.

after all, fifa and all its members states have the same rules that state, that insulting a player is worth a red card. see fifa rules chapter 2/article 52.

of course you need a clear evidence -- and this evidence might be hard to achieve in the insult case, as thats not as easy to prove like an assault -- but materazzi commited it stupidly.

and anyway, you have the element of relativating an action by a suspected person to a certain social/physical/anatomical situation in any civil court case.
 
DBear said:
And you Europeans wonder why soccer doesn't catch on in the United States. If an NFL, NBA, MLB or NHL commissioner came up with that ruling, they wouldn't be commissioner after 24 hours.

And our commissioners aren't the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree, either.

So Materazzi insulted Zidane. Around here, that's called trash talk, considered part of the game, and you better learn to handle it if you don't want to be considered a total weenie.
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There are some good things that american sports have.. but just some ;)
 
hmm, i see nothing usefull in promoting or arguing for trash talk.
football is still a game, even if it sometimes feels like a psycho-war.
its just unsportsman-like and doesnt contribute anything positive to the game in a larger sense.
sport should still make you fit and educate and blabla...so in a wider sense the same principles which are applied to sport for the amateurs should be applied to the pros.
 
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