BOTM 35 First Spoiler - 1 AD

[Grifftavian]

Contender Save. Initial Goal = get off to a decent start and take out nearest neighbor (turns out that wasn't necessary).

I moved the Warrior 1N to the Plains Hill, and not seeing anything interesting, I decided to settle in place. This revealed the Wheat and a second Oasis, so I'm thinking

With the Wheat in London's BFC, I decided on Agriculture, bee-line Pottery, and Bronze Working as my initial tech path. Initial builds in London were Worker, Warrior x2, and Settler. I eventually built a Cottage on every Flood Plain in London's BFC.

At 1 AD, I have a total of six cities...

Spoiler :

York founded T37/2520 BC, 2N+2NW of London, on coastal riverside plains tile next to Corn and 2 Dye in BFC.

Nottingham founded T57/1720 BC, 2NE+1E of York, near Gems with Copper & Horse in BFC.

Hastings founded T97/450 BC, 4N+1NW of Nottingham, on Desert Tile between Ivory & Marble.

Zapotec captured from Barbs T110/125 BC, its on the NW corner of "Africa", a former Mayan city (Well, no, I don't want to return control to Maya, but thanks for asking )

Canterbury founded T111/100 BC, 3 NW of Hastings, next to Iron.

I lost out on my CS slingshot attempt, with The Oracle built by someone on Turn 87, and I had 7 turns invested into my build (got 66 failure gold as a result). I built The Great Wall in London on T77/950 BC, and The Great Lighthouse in York on T111/100 BC.

Research completed at 1 AD: Agriculture, Wheel/Pottery, Bronze Working, Mysticism, Hunting, Animal Husbandry, Writing, Masonry, Sailing, Iron Working, Polytheism, Priesthood, Mathematics, Code of Laws (Confucianism founded in York), Monotheism, Alphabet, Currency, Calendar (1 turn remaining for completion).

Tech Trades: Writing for Archery; Mathematics for Monarchy

Spoiler :

both with Pacal II of Maya

So only a fair start, I think, as I maybe should have a couple of more cities at this point. But plenty of room to peacefully expand on this continent. Where do I go from here? Christianity, Islam and Taoism all remain to be founded in my game, so if a could found all of those I might try for a Cultural Victory. Otherwise I think its build about 4 to 6 more cities and aim for the Stars.

 

[nmindos]

I settled on the coast, 2(SW) of the starting point. That had pigs, (horses appeared in range) and plenty of cottaging potential, but not much production. I probably should have used the income to expand more quickly.

Around there is where I put my second city. Great spot. I agree though that more expansion would have been better early on, particularly with Victoria's economic advantages. Without going into detail, kcd_swede had more cities/land at 1AD than I have further along in the game.

 

[kechua]

Do I must make this spoiler or no?

 

[jesusin]

Do I must make this spoiler or no?

Hi kechua, welcome to GOTM.


Writing a spoiler is optional. I always write one and I recommend you do the same. Why?

- Others can learn from your experience
- I learn from the comments other make about my spoiler
- The most interesting thing of the GOTM concept is sharing and comparing ideas
- It improves your game

 

[Skurn]

Goal is culture victory with 4 religions at least, 2 legendary cities heavily cottaged and the third one building every cultural wonder. Other cities will do the temples and GA productions, as well as some military if needed, and build gold to finance 100% culture in the end.

After moving the warrior NW, I settled in place and started producting a worker and researching agri.
I fogbusted the south and expanded toward the north, where I founded York on the coast to grab corn, gems and 3*dyes in 2440BC, and Nottingham in 2040BC near the lake with 4 ivory and several FP. York will be a good cottage city and Nottingham will have great production, so they fit to become legendary culture cities #2 and #3

Tech path : Agri > AH > BW > Wheel > Pottery > Myst > Writing (2000BC)

At that point I stopped expanding to focus on Oracle and CS, but that was an utter fail.
My fogbusting was ok save in the northeast, and I got a problem with a barb warrior who managed to pillage my marble; so I had to produce more warriors (my only military unit so far) to kill the barbs and make a better job at fogbusting. Two barb cities were founded on my continent, one in the east that I would keep and another in the northwest that spoiled the nice GPfarm spot by the pigs/fish/oasis/gold/FP and that I would have to raze.
So I missed the oracle by 4 or 5 turns I think, it was built in 500BC IDL. I had only built a 4th city in 725BC, Hastings, in the north to grab the iron and build something else than warriors to take the barb cities. And confu was founded in York in 625BC.

So now was the time to expand seriously and fill the continent. I started pumping out settlers and workers, to found Canterbury in 275BC in the NW corner and Coventry in 175BC in the SW corner. York started working on the Parthenon as soon as Aesthetics was researched (150BC)
I poped a GS in York to create an academy in London in 25BC.

I made contact with Iza and Pacal via their workboats, and they were buddhist and hinduist.

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1AD situation : 6 cities, 29 pop, 7 workers, 12 warriors / 69 sustainable bpt @60%
Techs : 50% of CS, Aesth, IW, monarchy
Running under slavery, HR, OR, in confucianism

 

[jesusin]

I fogbusted the south and expanded toward the north, where I founded York on the coast to grab corn, gems and 3*dyes in 2440BC, and Nottingham in 2040BC near the lake with 4 ivory and several FP. York will be a good cottage city and Nottingham will have great production, so they fit to become legendary culture cities #2 and #3

Great election of Legendary cities.

Now, why found your second city (York) there? It looks like it won't be a great city till IW, so it won't help you expand as much as other cities would have. I would have left that site for later.


Looking forward to your final spoiler.

 

[Skurn]

Now, why found your second city (York) there? It looks like it won't be a great city till IW, so it won't help you expand as much as other cities would have. I would have left that site for later.

Well I reasearched IW rather early (1440BC) for two reasons : developping York and hopping to get iron in a good position to found a 4th city, as I had no copper yet.
Anyway I should have done differently. I should have settled this city after I had founded a city west of the ivories to grab copper + wheat + 3 FP I think. Moreover I would have had axemen earlier, could have delayed IW after Math, and if I could have defended my marble I would probably have suceeded in oracling CS..