Broadway is a joke!

[GenericKen]

1992: European Cup. Yugoslavia was placed for the event, but then war broke out. It was replaced by a nice little football-country, Denmark. The Danish players returned from their holidays and started the EC not trained to the max. In the semi-finals they defeated the reigning European Champion, the Netherlands. In the finals they defeated Germany, with 3 world titles considered one of the best European football nations.

Perhaps I should rephrase; has there ever been a come-from-behind win in professional soccer? My understanding is that if you're down 2-0 by the half, your chances of winning are pretty much nil; worse than a 21 point deficit in american football.


I do agree that americans and canadians should relinquish and start calling soccer football, except we'd call it fOOotball to differenciate.

 

[Artanis]

It is pretty bizarre that a game where the foot is used less than 0.0001% of the game is called 'football'. I of course refer to American Football.

Kinda bizarre if you just look at it today, yes. If you look at its origins though, it starts to make more sense.

American football traces its origins back to Soccer-Football by way of Rugby...heck, it originally was Rugby, just with a minor tweak or two. So it was already its own sport, but still close enough to "Rugby Football" for calling it "football" to be pretty logical. It wasn't until later that it started to deviate noticably away - almost always for purely practical reasons (like FDR threatening to ban it if they didn't make certain changes) - but since each time it was just a new version of the same sport, there was never really a reason to give it an entirely new name. Multiply that by over a century, and what you end up with is virtually unrecognizeable from its original incarnation, but never having gotten around to changing its name




As an aside, I'm pretty sure that Basketball, Bobsledding, and Stock Car Racing would count as having had similar situations in that they too evolved away from what named them without actually changing what they were called

 

[mjs0]

Perhaps I should rephrase; has there ever been a come-from-behind win in professional soccer? My understanding is that if you're down 2-0 by the half, your chances of winning are pretty much nil; worse than a 21 point deficit in american football.

It happens many times every single weekend. This past weekend a quick glance at scores showed me two team in the Spanish top league came back from 2-0 down and avoid defeat. Also two examples in England where teams came back from 2-0 down to even at 2-2, even though they eventually went on to lose.

For a high profile example how about in last years Champions League Final, the culmination of a 9 month long competition that pits the top finishing teams from the previous year in each country against each other...the closest thing football in Europe has to a superbowl. Last year Liverpool of England were outplayed by AC Milan of Italy and trailed 3-0 at half time. In the second half Liverpool scored three times to force extra time and eventually win on penalties.

 

[Sneakthief]

Perhaps I should rephrase; has there ever been a come-from-behind win in professional soccer? My understanding is that if you're down 2-0 by the half, your chances of winning are pretty much nil; worse than a 21 point deficit in american football.

Last years european cup final, the biggest game in european club competition
Liverpool were 3-0 down at half time and came back to 3-3 and won on penalties

Edit: oops shoulda finished reading mjs0 post

But why did the Americans call there game football in the 1st place? Proper football had already been in existance for a long time when the US "invented" they're version (well copied rugby) and as others have pointed out the feet r rarely used. Surely they could have come up with something a little more original and relevant. Although to b fair Rugby's full name is Rugby football, as it was invented when some1 at the rugby school picked up the ball and ran with it while playing football.

 

[Nilrim]

It is pretty bizarre that a game where the foot is used less than 0.0001% of the game is called 'football'. I of course refer to American Football.

The actual 'ball' isn't even designed to be kicked. I truly hope the US never really takes proper football to heart, as I'd hate everyone calling it 'soccer'

Keep in mind that American football has evolved a lot since it was first called football. In fact early American football was a lot closer to Rugby and the kicking of the ball was used a lot more then it is today.

 

[Nilrim]

But why did the Americans call there game football in the 1st place? Proper football had already been in existance for a long time when the US "invented" they're version (well copied rugby) and as others have pointed out the feet r rarely used. Surely they could have come up with something a little more original and relevant. Although to b fair Rugby's full name is Rugby football, as it was invented when some1 at the rugby school picked up the ball and ran with it while playing football.

First American football and Euro football evolved about the same time, maybe with a little edge to Euro. As for what to call it, keep in mind that early American football used kicking the ball with the feet rather then throwing it with the hands more offten, it was much closer to Rugby, which was at the time and in certain areas outside the US refered to as football. So here you have a group of college kids playing some game they kind of made up or drew from other sports, who may not of even known of the existance of Euro football trying to come up with a name for their sport.

"Hey guys what we going to call this game??" "Hey I know we can call it Wierdshapedball." ...... "Naaaaaaa lets just call it football since we kick the darn thing so much." .... "Yea that works now lets knock some heades."

You Eruos really have to get over the fact that we call our game football, frankly we could care less what you call your game, heck it could be littlegrillyball for all we care, I can't figure why it is such a big deal

 

[Reignking]

Perhaps I should rephrase; has there ever been a come-from-behind win in professional soccer? My understanding is that if you're down 2-0 by the half, your chances of winning are pretty much nil; worse than a 21 point deficit in american football.

You missed my post...Chelsea v. Barcelona last year...DC United in the first
MLS championship...

 

[Tavenier]

Liverpool - Milan European Cup finals.
Liv was 0-3 behind at halftime. Scored 3 goals in 2nd half and won in the extra time (or was it penalties?).

WC 1994 in the USA (that's why I name this match):
Netherlands - Brazil quarter finals (Brazil had won the 8th finals against the USA with only 1-0!)
Holland was behind 2 goals, got back to 2-2 and in th last minute Brazil made it 3-2.

Football is a game where the match is almost never over at halftime. I don't know why you think it is a game like that. These two above examples I made to show that it also happens at the very top, not 'only' in national leagues.

 

[Tavenier]

Last years european cup final, the biggest game in european club competition
Liverpool were 3-0 down at half time and came back to 3-3 and won on penalties

Edit: oops shoulda finished reading mjs0 post

Hahahah, same mistake made by me!

 

[Ebitdadada]

Well, the Cup is important to 100+ countries, except 1. Broadway is important to 1 country, and ignored on 100+. As far as World Wonders are concerned, the World Cup beats Broadway hands down, anyday...

But I would vote on the Olympics, anyway...

Cheers,

Mad hab

Elizebeth offers 1 Soccer Game for 1 Hit Musical?

That's my opinion on why they didn't go with a sporting event. Plus, the World Cup and Olympics move around while Broadway is in a fixed location like the other wonders.

If I were to rage about an unimportatant American wonder, I'd go for Mount Rushmore.

 

[gettingfat]

Elizebeth offers 1 Soccer Game for 1 Hit Musical?

That's my opinion on why they didn't go with a sporting event. Plus, the World Cup and Olympics move around while Broadway is in a fixed location like the other wonders.

If I were to rage about an unimportatant American wonder, I'd go for Mount Rushmore.

No USA bashing, but Mt Rushmore is not that special to start with.

Ever heard of Leshan Giant Budda, the largest budda statue in the world?

It is located in SzeChuan of China. Similar to Mt. Rushmore. It's also a statue directly craved from the hill. The difference is, it's built 713AC during Tang dynasty. No machine, no gunpowder! The statue is 71 meters tall, 20+ meters wide. On top of that, it's built right above a river with strong flow. A drainage system was dug in the statue to reduce the impact from the water. In fact, it's designed to calm down the strong flow of the water to reduce accidents, so there's practical value. And it's way more artistic than Mt. Rushmore.

Mt. Rushmore is not that WONDERful IMHO.