BTS – Entertainment value greater than cost?

[Öjevind Lång]

I am trying to show that a majority of forum users have gotten their money's worth from the game. The dollar figure I gave was just an example.

Since the main goal of a game is entertainment, a game could be considered successful if the value of the entertainment one receives from it is greater than what one paid.

There have been a lot of posts in some other threads that have been very anti-BTS (and Firaxis) which I think are somewhat extreme and most likely constitute a vocal minority. My attempt in this poll was to provide an alternate point of view without asking a leading question, and to show that many, many people feel that BTS is indeed successful and worth the money spent on it.

I agree that on the face of it it is an absurd question, but only because the results are so lopsided (as predicted).

Please note that I am not saying the game does not have it's faults, or that it can not be improved.

I voted "Yes", but I do think Take2/Firaxis have misbehaved over the patching. The people at Firaxis are not my friends, and I owe them no "loyalty"; they are people whose products I buy - or used to buy. If they leave BtS hanging the way they did with the last XP for Civ III I really doubt that I'll buy Civ V.

 

[Rvil Plum]

Played Civ more than any other game and I play a lot of games, but civ is something I come back to again and again.

The thing that keeps civ alive for me is that they keep improving it. I rarely play the original version for long, because along comes an expansion, ("Test of Time" or "BTS", etc), or along comes a really great mod ("Rhye's and Fall" or "Fall from Heaven" etc), and it's these expansions and mods that I play to death.

I like the early periods of most games more than the middle to late periods, and I really don't mind losing. I'm struggling to get my first BTS win on Immortal at the moment, and I think this is my seventh attempt. This seventh game is really close, and this time I might just do it. If I don't, then it will be my fault, and I will come back for attempt number eight or nine or ten - LOL.

I think that's the core to civ. I don't mind losing, because the game is fair and 99% of the times that I do lose, it's because I did something wrong, usually because I didn't think something through properly. As to the depth of play, well it doesn't matter if you play the game at Chieftan level, or earn a civ degree and play it at Deity level - the game is just a huge and a huge amount of fun.

Regards - Mr P

 

[Öjevind Lång]

Played Civ more than any other game and I play a lot of games, but civ is something I come back to again and again.

The thing that keeps civ alive for me is that they keep improving it. I rarely play the original version for long, because along comes an expansion, ("Test of Time" or "BTS", etc), or along comes a really great mod ("Rhye's and Fall" or "Fall from Heaven" etc), and it's these expansions and mods that I play to death.

I like the early periods of most games more than the middle to late periods, and I really don't mind losing. I'm struggling to get my first BTS win on Immortal at the moment, and I think this is my seventh attempt. This seventh game is really close, and this time I might just do it. If I don't, then it will be my fault, and I will come back for attempt number eight or nine or ten - LOL.

I think that's the core to civ. I don't mind losing, because the game is fair and 99% of the times that I do lose, it's because I did something wrong, usually because I didn't think something through properly. As to the depth of play, well it doesn't matter if you play the game at Chieftan level, or earn a civ degree and play it at Deity level - the game is just a huge and a huge amount of fun.

Regards - Mr P

I agree with you. I often decide not to play a game to finish because I have had a thoroughly good time and now want to play another game. And I've played Civ since the original version back in Anno Dazumal. It was love at first play. I think this enjoyment even when one doesn't finish a given game is one of the greatest assets of Civ. It would be a great pity io the producers of this wonderful game would alienate its supporters because some number cruncher thinks they "shouldn't waste any more money on this one".