[BTS] New game?

[Traks]

Hi all,
It looks like no new games are starting at the moment, but people have posted as being interested. After looking at current Civ5 state, I decided it is good idea to move back to Civ4.

So! I would like make a new game in Civ4, my first multiplayer game.
All settings can be discussed, what I would be looking at:

Epic speed
No tech brokering
Yes tech trading
1 religion/player

Any input and most importantly interested players are welcome.
Best regards.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

I'd recommend normal rather than epic 1 turn a day is considered fast for PBEM.

How can you enforce one religion per player? A gentleman's agreement?

EDIT: And hoarding religions is going to get you killed pretty quickly anyway

 

[Traks]

No problem.
This would be my first MP fame in Civ4 or Civ for that matter, so I mat miss some obvious things.

Speed: Normal
Spies: Disabled? Looks like they are too powerful in MP game, and even SP to be honest.
Religions: There was checkbox for that. What I meant, is if you get hinduism as holy city/first to discover, you don't get any other holy cities even if you discover technologies for those religions first.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

I don't think there's an option to limit holy cities - are you thinking of "choose religions" - which means that you pick which religion you want when you are first to a religion enabling tech.

Turning espionage off is broken - all EPs go into culture and spy specialists give "neutral" GP points which is whack. I'd either keep it on (it's the same for every player then) or play Warlords instead.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Well count me in anyway if we can get enough players.

 

[Traks]

Sure, you are counted in.
Now I am thinking if I take Sitting Bull and play like Sitting Bull, will other players love me?

Let's see for 1-2 weeks how many people we can gather, map size will be based on that.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Turtle, build loads of archers, and poison water all the time? Not sure that will work in MP

 

[Ben-09]

I'm interested, this will be my first PBEG. My email address is 'Ben09.Civilization4.pbegs@gmail.com'

 

[mcaber]

I would very much like to participate too. It would be my first PBEM as well.

I´m running the BAT mod usually but that can be unloaded of course. Is there any other mod I would need? I assume it will be latest patch 3.19?

 

[Leise]

I'm interested and also my first PBEG.. running patch 3.19.. mess me if you need e-mail.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

5 is a good number to start with - although we could wait for another player or 2.

What map type are you thinking of Traks?

 

[Traks]

I think 1 more week and we are starting. If anybody joins till Sunday, they are also in.
Ideally would be even number, like 6. Or we can add one AI to get that number.

In meantime we can start discussions on what we want to see.
I will highlight only things I want to be changed, if something is not mentioned I am fine with default setting.

Maybe snaky continents?
There are so many map types that sometimes I get confused
I am looking for map which would have average size continent or big island map, with 2-3 players on it, with small chance to also be generated on some island.
Island territory should be comparable with territory you would get on continent.
So you have some friends nearby and some friends later in game.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Archipelago, low sea level, snaky continents can be like that.

I wouldn't bank on friends in MP, just people cooperating temporarily in their own self interest

Are you sure we want tech trading? The thing that can happen with that is once someone with alphabet is about to get eliminated everyone gifts them all their techs.

I agree 6 is a better number especially if we have more than 1 continent.

 

[Leise]

Tech trading can be good and bad.. I think we should have 2 or 1 continent, it would be terrible to start on a small island all by yourself.
Maybe Perfektworld2 map script?

 

[mcaber]

There is the "no tech brokering" option where you are only allowed to trade away techs you´ve researched yourself.

And I think it would be prudent to disclose that I know Leise in real life. Of course we won´t try to use that to any advantage. Hopefully that is ok with everyone?

 

[ParadigmShifter]

I've never tried tech brokering (I mainly play HoF and it's disallowed there) but I will try anything.

I have no probs about people knowing each other. Looks like I am going to be the only person to have played PBEM before anyway

Are we going to allow picking leaders or go random? I don't mind random but if we were to pick I should probably pick someone not too powerful early on.

 

[Traks]

Probably we can pick leaders.
I have no objection of people knowing each other.

I will pick leader that I like anyway, and yes Paradigmshifter, you are only one with experience in this group.
I did join other game, but I have done only one turn there so

 

[AutomatedTeller]

I'll play, if you are still looking for people.

I generally turn around pretty quickly.

If we pick leaders, we should probably ban some - rome, certainly, maybe inca. Probably the others are ok.

I have played a couple of PBEM...

One rule I liked in the veni vici game I played was enforced peace for x turns (I think we did 20), which allows for exploration by the initial warrior without any worries.

I also think no random events is important - most of them are fine, but some of them are brutal or really overpowered. It's fine in a single game, where it's just the breaks, but in an MP game, someone getting cover for all melee units is at a huge advantage, where someone who gets a barb event is kind of hosed.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

6 players - that's enough to start!

I'm OK with events off but I think huts on is good.

I volunteer to go Saladin because he is pretty weak at the start.

EDIT: We should go west through timezones as play order, starting with Traks. I'm in the UK GMT+0.

 

[mcaber]

I´m in GMT +01. I´m perfectly fine with random leaders, if I´m not allowed (since I might get Rome), I´d like Louis XIV.

I second huts on, those who start with scouts should have that advantage. I´d also like events but I understand if people wants them out.

Psyched for my first PBEM!