Mitchum
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High post count does not a civ giant make.
[BTS] NEWS: BOTM 291: Louis XIV, Prince - Starts May 27
- Thread starter kcd_swede
- Start date
As many of you may have noticed, the site is currently down. If the start is delayed past June 1, I'll extend the deadline so that you get at least a full month to submit. But do check in occasionally as the server could be back in service sooner if we are fortunate.
Frederiksberg
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Why don't you simply put the save somewhere else (dropbox, Google drive) and post a link to it?
I'd have to take it up with the admins and other staff since its not something we've done before. I'll start a discussion with them, and if I get some positive feedback before the server is restored, I can probably manage that.
It's great that the enthusiasm to get on with the games is still strong!
LowtherCastle
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+1
If it’s a matter of keeping the door closed to hackers, okay. If it’s a matter of maintaining player integrity, imo those of us remaining active here trust each other.
Mitchum
Deity
One more minor follow-up question for kcd_swede. I've played a few team PBEM games. In those games, each team had the union of the starting techs. If the two leaders had all different starting techs, the team started with all four. If there was one starting tech duplicated, the team started with three techs. If the starting techs of both leaders were the same, the team started with just those 2 starting techs.
In this game, does each team start with the two starting techs of the non-minor leader? Or does it follow my experience with PBEM (which is why I assumed we started with Hunting and a scout)? Or do we simply have to play and find out?
We'll figure out quickly what our team's situation is when we open the save so it's more of a question for which techs the AI teams will start with.
In this game, does each team start with the two starting techs of the non-minor leader? Or does it follow my experience with PBEM (which is why I assumed we started with Hunting and a scout)? Or do we simply have to play and find out?
We'll figure out quickly what our team's situation is when we open the save so it's more of a question for which techs the AI teams will start with.
Conquistador 63
Deity
My personal deadline for playing/submitting this one is June 10th, as I'll be away from home from then on. So, +1 for an alternative download method for the starting save. 
High King J.J.
Prince
I agree. I was referring to the highly advanced discussion about esoteric aspects of Civ4 game mechanics. It was high enough that I got an oxygen depravity headache from the thin air at such heights. My own lack of experience with these game settings caused me to ask a question of modest altitude, hardly fitting among the stratospheric average of the conversation.High post count does not a civ giant make.
You'll have to play and find out.One more minor follow-up question for kcd_swede. I've played a few team PBEM games. In those games, each team had the union of the starting techs. If the two leaders had all different starting techs, the team started with all four. If there was one starting tech duplicated, the team started with three techs. If the starting techs of both leaders were the same, the team started with just those 2 starting techs.
In this game, does each team start with the two starting techs of the non-minor leader? Or does it follow my experience with PBEM (which is why I assumed we started with Hunting and a scout)? Or do we simply have to play and find out?
We'll figure out quickly what our team's situation is when we open the save so it's more of a question for which techs the AI teams will start with.
I am within 10 minutes from now going to attach the save to the original announcement in this thread. That seems to be a good work-around like in Civ 5 through 7.My personal deadline for playing/submitting this one is June 10th, as I'll be away from home from then on. So, +1 for an alternative download method for the starting save.
You can now download the starting save from the first post in this thread.
Frederiksberg
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Great! Thanks for all the good work you put in to keep these games going.
IllustriousWahoo
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This will be my first GOTM, looking forward to giving this a try. Thanks for getting the starting save up and running!
donsig
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More than a few days already and I cannot access the GOTM pages through my old links. Are there new links I should be using?
Keep the links, they should hopefully all come back online before the deadline for this GOTM runs out, and otherwise I hope that @kcd_swede will be flexible.
The owner has transferred most of what we're hosting (that is 1 wordpress installation, 2 websites, 2 wikis, and a bunch of stuff on the FTP), but both GOTM and HOF are causing technical issues, delaying everything :/.
(in case there's an expert in PHP 8 around... that'd accelerate it)
You can submit your saved game to me by PM as an attachment. When the system is back up, I will then upload your submission for you. I'll be extending the submission deadline once I can, and it will go for 1 month from when the server becomes available. But send to my by PM if you are worried you might forget.
Just a quick note to let everyone know that I will be extending the deadline for accepting submissions until the system lets me upload the saves already submitted by attaching PM or message in my Profile, I'll let you know and be sure you have a few days to upload yourself if you prefer.
High King J.J.
Prince
Does this mean it's still possible to finish this Botm and get it submitted? Or is it considered unfair to use this long time? If so, I won't waste my time finishing Botm291.
Yes, all submissions are still accepted for an indefinite time. I am thinking that if we are in the same spot into late September, then we'll start doing like Civ5-7 where we post results that are not policed. I believe that most of our loyal players embrace the spirit of the competition, and the prospect of some later time being able to review submissions would prevent everyone from taking liberties. But for now, any save that cannot be submitted due to server malfunction is admissible, no matter how long it takes, submit by PM when you finish.
This conundrum is why I have been internally debating whether or not to start a new game for mid-July... It could create a big big backlog for me to upload a bunch of stuff before publishing results. But I have time. IIRC BOTM 293 should be at Monarch level, so hopefully in the next few days you will have another game to divert your attentions. I'll be nice. Promise!
LowtherCastle
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You could make an insane game. Like the GOTM that was entirely grass tiles, except this time, entirely grass tiles with goodie huts on every single one.Yes, all submissions are still accepted for an indefinite time. I am thinking that if we are in the same spot into late September, then we'll start doing like Civ5-7 where we post results that are not policed. I believe that most of our loyal players embrace the spirit of the competition, and the prospect of some later time being able to review submissions would prevent everyone from taking liberties. But for now, any save that cannot be submitted due to server malfunction is admissible, no matter how long it takes, submit by PM when you finish.
This conundrum is why I have been internally debating whether or not to start a new game for mid-July... It could create a big big backlog for me to upload a bunch of stuff before publishing results. But I have time. IIRC BOTM 293 should be at Monarch level, so hopefully in the next few days you will have another game to divert your attentions. I'll be nice. Promise!
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