Changing a threat

Hurt_Conveyor

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Early on in a game Greece decided to try and get my world map and 350 gold. ( They were across world from me and about had only 4 cities) Instead of giving in , i change it around and gave them my territory map instead. Ever since them the other 10 civs have been calling me a triator and some will not even trade with me. All they keep saying is "Not after what you did to Greece"! What the hell is going on! Am I being repremanded for not giving in to some one elses crazy threat! I didnt mind at first, but now the AI's are gaining techs at the speed of light and because of my 'evil ways' i have been shut out of the trade circle. I have tried ROP pacts, luxury trading, extremely high single payments, EVERYTHING! They just simply will not budge on their idea of me. I would understand this if i would have attacked them or something like that, but in the entire game i have seen not one Greek unit ANYWHERE NEAR my territory, i havent got into one war, and i havent broke any agreements. PLEASE someone explain this to me so i dont have to go through this again!
 
It's a bizarre thing you describe...in my experience you can't negotiate a threat, you can only give in or call their bluff. Are you sure you didn't call them out then make a separate deal for your territory map? Did you ever see your foreign advisor say the Greeks declared war on you? If you somehow had a gpt or RoP deal and then declared war (maybe by accident?) that would really damage your reputation...
 
nope i never declared war at all in this game, and for the most part i gave into every demand a civ put to me. I have never in my life seen something like this. It really makes me mad to because this was the first time was doing really well at diety level, but all that has been shot to hell. Que sa ra sa.

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none. i have tried to be everyones best friend (*****) this game
 
Ok, what probably happened is the Greeks got into a war with the only civ that had a harbor on their continent, cutting a luxury deal with you. Even though it's their fault you get blamed for it. :(
 
Probably like Dave said, you broke somekind of trade without realizing it. I've read once that sometimes a barbarian ship can even "block" a trade route. Traderoute broken so, rep-hit.

If you're trading for instance incense with greece and you only got 2 sources and another civ's cultural border jumps over your second source , you break a treaty as wel.
 
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