G-R-E-A-T map. But Aren't the carologians a bit large from the start? And You should probably keep the civs to a lower level because sometimes when i look at the map it makes me feel like: Should this even be listed as my mod?
thats what i said before the space for the frankish empire is very large, thats why its all divided. well that is a MAP it`s no mod
it reflects the actual situation in that time period, seen on a larger scale that is.
as most civs are placed on my map it would be even rather the reign of carl martell half a century before charlemagne
when carlemagne became king, asturias burgundy and alemannia were already in control of the empire, but since total historic accurancy sometimes criples the gameplay, some "adjustments" to history must be as always accepted.
diviner asked for my "working sheet map" and since i`m not that picky about sharing "works" i just posted it.
But to keep in my mind i think that you should mostly use my civs, but edit them a bit. and maybe use those random civ slots. But what i was meaning by having the map larger is to just increase the square amount to meet around the original map size, because i like the map but it's just too small for my liking, (i just like large maps, ok!?) and anyways only like a half of the map is where i originally planned it to span. oh And also another thing why is france so wide but so short? (so fat but so low in height?)
well that last posted map is, as mentioned, sort of my working sheet, i`ve made this when MEM came out anusing aeldriks map back then and placing the citys , when i found the charlemagne thread i made that map smaller and added civs that had been discused here along civs that i thought nedded for historical accurancy.
hm the scale of aeldriks map is slightly smaller that that of loulongs france map, so thats why there are not so many tiles (i think this is what you ment with the amount of squares?!) that scale can`t be changed though.
this is also the reason for the "flatness". while lou long used another angle view the land is more streched.
aeldiks map looks flattend because of the square system of civ itself. dunno how to explain that...
when you take a plain map and you convert it to a civ map it flattens due to the lesser hight of eache tile compared to its width.
this is the case in many maps, i think all that are convertions.
For the leaderheads where's the files? How will i find the right leaderhead? And, it looks more like you scraped up the files from MEM changed the civs a bit then threw some citys on. (not trying to sound mean though) because when i took a deep look the rules, i saw the nonconstructive criticism i said before.
i finally see the point, you missunderstood me and i missunderstood you...
of cause this is a MEm map, as the name inflicts MEM Charlemagne, my original map was intended for mem and just altered like i said before.
for seeing the outcome of this "workingsheet" you just have to import it to the mem mod in the edior.
this is, as said, JUST a map, and not a mod. if it would be a mod i would have asked the MEM creators for allowance and for their help as well.
Just saying that im making mine up from scratch (im a rigger yipee) and you use others work switch it around and throw it around (your a hardcore yipee) and Diviner just says stuff and gets all the credit (he's a career yipee) (i just used all 3 of the tony hawk proving ground classes) well back to topic (sorry) just saying if this were to be released it would make more sense to just call it an updated western Europe mod for the carologian ages.
well you`re a bit harsh, as far as i understood, you asked for help concerning the map, city lists and stuff, all we do is offer that help and make suggestions on how things could be handled, it`s not necessary to include everyone who points out something to the credits of your mod.
as well you shouldn`t be set off just because we want to give our thoughts and options on how YOUR mod could be improved.
Well looks like you put a lot of work on it, but next time i'd prefer if you'd just slap on resources to the map im using and add cities to the civs (if thats alright with you! )
as said, the work was done before, so this was really no big deal, maybe half an hour for adjusting the original map to the charlemangne idea.
as for the map you´re using, which one is it now? the original loulong map? the croped map i made of aedlriks wich you find too small?
or did you ask for a enlarged version of lou longs map in the first place?
you should try to tell the things you want a bit more clear, i have no problem putting my work to a nice use and outcome, but if i don`t get the point in what you really want i can`t do it
and so far,
you asked for a clean croped map of my original version, that i posted
and you asked for city lists for some of the civs you want to use, where i pointed out that the mem lists work in 98% of the cases.
Edit: you should probably change the franks into the major reigons on my plate then just go and copy the civs from your mod to mine. Because since the map i'm using is so large it would make sence to split it up.
you see i`m sorry but i fear this just won`t work,
you should probably change the franks into the major reigons on my plate
i just really don`t get the point of that...
the civs from my MAP are the civs that had been discused in the thread, plus some additoins, but they are not finshed just named, as workingdata.
Because since the map i'm using is so large it would make sence to split it up
so i think, and have to apologize for that, but i really din`t get it when you told about my croped map beeing to small and stuff, that you will definite use loulongs france map.
then i have to repeat my advice, that it is too big in scale, and too small for the covered area.
there is even more space for the frankish in there than in the croped aeldrik map.
and more disturbing there is no splace at all for the avars, the slavs, and only partly for the saxons and the bavaria civ.
i also like big maps
thats why i tried to make a large europe map for mem in the first place, but as said before, sometimes big is just a tiny scale too big.
lou longs map is really great and detailed, but focuses to much on france, and to less on the areas charlemagne conquered in the end.
) wich was located at the danube south of Budapest, so just use the hungary city list of MEM
) it is nearly half the size (maybe the plain map is too large to start with). But for one pointer, you should try to leave out th rest of the map except for the far east of the alps.
