Chart to a self-sufficient settler warehouse

[thescaryworker]

I've wondered, how do you get a city to produce settlers effectively without wasting sheilds, turns or population. I quickly made this chart to see about what a city would need to build a settler in x turns. It is really possible to get a town to produce a settler every two turns. However, you'd probably need it to be size 6, have a grainary, and a major coincidence of landscaping (lots of floodplains, wheat, cattle).

The Max food that one citizen CAN produce is (govt not Desp.) 3+1+1+2 (flood plains+irrigation+rail+wheat) =7 w/o improvements OR wheat it's 5

Let's say a straight river runs right through the middle of a city in the desert (which results in floodplains). That is upto 5 (9 if culture is above 10) tiles. If you're in despotism, and haven't got steampower yet. That is a total of 3+1-1=3 food/ tile x 5 or 9 == 15 or 27 that's a surplus food total of 5-9. If you're not in despotism, it's 4/tile x 5 or 9 == 20 or 36, which is a total of 10-18 for those 5-9 tiles. With rails added it goes up to 15-27 for those tiles.

The chart below works as a guideline. If you have a small city producing 4 extra food a turn and not getting bigger, look at its production rate to decide where you want to go from there.

You can reverse the surplus amounts, (instead of 3,5-6 it could be 5-6,3) but you need to reverse the sheilds/turn and the turns to next growth.

Heres an image of it. Plz post here if you find a flaw. (bg,ag means before growth, after growth)

 

[SJ Frank]

Well, there is one problem. Take the example of the 5-turn settler factory: If the city has +4 food per turn and a granary, then it would actually take 6-turn to build a setter instead of 5, because the extra food does not carry over when it fills the food box.

The route to a 5 turn factory is to take 3 turns to grow at size 5, and 2 turns to grow at size 6. So the food required during turns 1-5 is: 3-3-4-(grow)-5-5. The average fpt turns out to be 4, which is what your spreadsheet tell you. But the limiting factory here is actually the MAXIMUM amount of food that the city is capable of generating. If the city can't generate +5 food at size 6, then it can't reach 5-turns.

It is very rare to have an odd-turn settler factory, because if a city is capable of +5 food per turn, then generally you can grow it a bit bigger, to get enough shields to make it into a 4-turn factory. The price you pay to grow the city is 10% extra lux tax, while the benefit is 20% faster expansion, well worth it IMHO.

I think the spead sheet should show the maximum amount of food that the city can generate, and the fastest settler factory that it can achieve, something like this:

max fpt	  best possible settler factory
	  with granary    w/o granary
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+2		10		20
+3		8		14
+4		6		10
+5		4		8
+6		4		8
+7		4		6
+8		4		6
+9		4		6
+10		2		4

 

[Panzar75]

It is very rare to have an odd-turn settler factory, because if a city is capable of +5 food per turn, then generally you can grow it a bit bigger, to get enough shields to make it into a 4-turn factory. The price you pay to grow the city is 10% extra lux tax, while the benefit is 20% faster expansion, well worth it IMHO.

I get a 5-turn Settler Factory in my games every now and then. All you "need" is a little corruption so that while you can grow in 4 turns there isn't enough production. So after growth in two I put a citizen or two on a forest and get a growth in 3 to coincide with the Settler.

 

[thescaryworker]

I'll fix that as soon as I can get my correct computer hooked back up. Thnx for the feedback.

 

[thescaryworker]

I fixed it.