China relaxes it's two child policy to three.

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#China’s ruling Communist Party said Monday it will ease #birthlimits to allow all couples to have three children instead of two in hopes of slowing the rapid aging of its population, which is adding to strains on the economy and society. The ruling party has enforced birth limits since 1980 to restrain population growth but worries the number of working-age people is falling too fast while the share over age 65 is rising. FRANCE 24's Business Editor Yuka Royer explains. Subscribe to France 24 now: http://f24.my/youtubeEN

It must be wonderful living in a country that regulates your child bearing.
 
Yeah, the demographic picture for them looks terrible. I don't think that will solve it though. They are also going to raise retirement ages and that won't go over well. Currently, I think it is 50 for women and 60 for men.
 
last night ı have read this year they will have the same numbers of youth available for conscription as they had in 1961 . Not fully relevant perhaps , but lndia happens to be a Chinese concern .

edit : A hundred thousand curses for the people who did the autocorrection in my tablet
 
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I’ve always thought that China had a one child policy only strictly enforced more so in the urban areas and only loosely enforced in rural areas. I guess it must have slipped my radar China moved from One Child to Two Child sometime between the 1980s and present.

I guess this is one for the “What have you learned today” thread.
 
abradley said:
Yes.
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Well then you ought to know that the US government, and also state and local authorities, already exercise a tremendous amount of authority over people's procreation. Why you would fixate on one aspect which actually has an impact on others is very strange.

The US already uses social services to remove children from homes when they are neglected, and welfare is extremely limited, so we already have de facto birth limits for poor people. Why aren't you decrying that?
 
Moriarte said:
It must be wonderful living in the world being completely unaware the limitations are needed.

Perhaps China should learn from Nigeria when it comes to freedom from regulation?

https://borgenproject.org/nigerias-struggle-overpopulation/
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According to the article Nigeria has problems, but why?

What happened to their oil profits, maybe they need to copy some of Norway's policies.
Norway’s Energy Policies A Lesson For The World
By RFE/RL staff - Nov 29, 2014, 6:00 PM CST
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Norways-Energy-Policies-A-Lesson-For-The-World.html

But the subject of thread is "China relaxes it's two child policy to three."
 
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stinkubus said:
Well then you ought to know that the US government, and also state and local authorities, already exercise a tremendous amount of authority over people's procreation. Why you would fixate on one aspect which actually has an impact on others is very strange.

The US already uses social services to remove children from homes when they are neglected, and welfare is extremely limited, so we already have de facto birth limits for poor people. Why aren't you decrying that?
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We've gone from "China relaxes it's two child policy" to the US has some individual policies that aren't always handled correctly.
 
If you are poor enough the US has a zero child policy. The Supreme Court is ok with forced sterilization of mental patients.

You live in a society that does the EXACT SAME THING the only difference is China levied punishments on everyone and the US just punishes people who don't have money.
 
"You live in a society that does the EXACT SAME THING the only difference is China levied punishments on everyone and the US just punishes people who don't have money."

Those two points aren't the same.
 
stinkubus said:
Well then you ought to know that the US government, and also state and local authorities, already exercise a tremendous amount of authority over people's procreation. Why you would fixate on one aspect which actually has an impact on others is very strange.

The US already uses social services to remove children from homes when they are neglected, and welfare is extremely limited, so we already have de facto birth limits for poor people. Why aren't you decrying that?
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The US demographic outlook is considerably more positive than the Chinese one at this point – even when accepting the official Chinese picture at face value.

Which at least from a demographic pov is after all likely more pertinent than whether the US is morally equivalent with the PRC here.
 
stinkubus said:
If you are poor enough the US has a zero child policy.
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You talking about the guy who had already had 7 kids on probation for child endangerment? Or the guy who was $100,000 behind on child support payments?

stinkubus said:
The Supreme Court is ok with forced sterilization of mental patients.
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That is an issue in many countries. Some actors have been shady in how well they informed the patient. How voluntary is 'voluntary'? A guardian making that choice, is not really a choice made by the patient, is it? For some, the state is their guardian.

Google tells me the last legal forced sterilization in the US was 1981. There have been illegal ones (not properly informing the patient) and there has been ones that feel forced ("You are already in/going to jail for something, but we can reduce the sentence if you agree to sterilization"), etc..

https://www.equaltimes.org/a-new-report-highlights-the?lang=en#.YLahZahKhPZ
(article mostly about Spain, but mentions similar cases recently happened in UK, France, Croatia).

Arwon said:
Aren't you American?
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Aren't you Australian?

https://dpoa.org.au/factsheet-sterilisation/#:~:text=Background,sanctioned by Governments in Australia.
 
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So forty years ago they decided to trim the population. They seem shocked, shocked that it is working.

Now comes the trick of building a rich country without it being based on dirt-poor workers. They will need to build some sort of republic for the people, call it a people's republic for the lack of a better term.
 
In the US immigration has been the offset to fertility declines for 200 years. China hasn't been a place with heavy immigration and a growing, younger population has been a key factor in growing an economy. That has been true since the very beginnings of the industrial revolution. The old patterns of economic growth disappear when the demographics turn to a growing older population. Productivity is seen as the replacement. China's population is so huge that the scale of the problem dwarfs what is going on in the US. You don't want to piss off 10% of 1.4 billion people.
 
abradley said:
Yes.
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Not exactly a bastion of reproductive autonomy now is it. "Regulates your child bearing" by trying to force you to carry unwanted pregnancies to term.
 
abradley said:
But the subject of thread is "China relaxes it's two child policy to three."
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Being a critic of child bearing regulation, do you understand what will happen to the country of 1.4bn people, to prices of various foods, water, energy around planet Earth if China stops regulating and it’s population, say, doubles rapidly?
 
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