Civ IV Complete

AbuHab

AbuHab

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I'm coming back to Civ after losing the last 2+ years of my life to World of Warcraft. The last version of Civ that I played was Civ III, so I'd like to upgrade to Civ IV.

I'd like to get the base game and all the expansions. (Are there 2 or 3 expansions?)

I figure the most cost effective way to buy them would be as a bundle. I see that "Civ IV Complete" is out in Europe. I assume that package includes the main game and all the expansions. Is that correct?

Any ideas when it will be released in the US?
 
Hey...I bought Civ IV Complete via gogamer.com two weeks ago and it includes the game and both expansions (Warlords and Beyond the Sword). Plays on my PC just fine. Cost with shipping was under $40. I've already lost many hours to Civ IV.
 
I am in the USA and also bought Complete from gogamer, about 3 weeks ago. Under $40 including shipping as well, I used USPS Priority Mail and got it in less than a week (5 days, including a weekend).

So far no problems at all. The Complete version has all the latest patches (except Bhruics) and I have successfully used the HoF MOD (note: DO NOT use Bruhics patch if you plan to use the HoF MOD, they are not compatible, but the HoF MOD incorporated Brhuics fixes, so I use it for "regular" games as well)
 
It's a good thing I've never played WoW. I lose enough sleep to Civ and already have a bad trait where I can never quit doing something I've gotten into like a game. If WoW is as bad as every one says, it's probably best for my health and my future that I don't ever play it.
 
RulerOfDaPeople said:
It's a good thing I've never played WoW. I lose enough sleep to Civ and already have a bad trait where I can never quit doing something I've gotten into like a game. If WoW is as bad as every one says, it's probably best for my health and my future that I don't ever play it.
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WoW is a lot of fun, but I've finally realized it's not compatible with my personality. I'm obsessive/compulsive enough that I tend to strive for perfection more than I should, and I become frustrated when I don't achieve it.

In Civ, I try to create the "perfect" civilization, and I sometimes succeed, or at least come pretty close.

In WoW, I strove to create the "perfect" character. Unfortunately, the game, like most MMOs, is designed to never really allow perfection (and, consequently, to keep you paying $15 a month forever). In WoW, you're never really done with your character. There's always some additional and elusive goal just beyond the horizon.

If your personality is like mine, don't even think about trying WoW.
 
texasnightowl said:
Hey...I bought Civ IV Complete via gogamer.com two weeks ago and it includes the game and both expansions (Warlords and Beyond the Sword). Plays on my PC just fine. Cost with shipping was under $40. I've already lost many hours to Civ IV.
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Are there any differences between the European Civ IV Complete and the US version of Civ IV plus the two expansions?
 
AbuHab said:
Are there any differences between the European Civ IV Complete and the US version of Civ IV plus the two expansions?
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Ummm...Civ IV Complete comes on 1 DVD instead of 3?

Seriously...it loads and plays correctly. After install there are 3 different desktop icons/start menu entries and you can play either Vanilla, Warlords, or BTS no problems. I played Vanilla first and did my first BTS game the other night. FWIW, even the readme file on the disc gives US and Canada contact info for tech support. For under $40 for the game and both packs I personally couldn't see a reason to go any other way. I had been waiting for a price drop or combination package and this did it for me.
 
I played Everquest for many years (opening night til '04 or so), and was a very "big, high end-game" raider. I never got into WoW, I had already mostly burned out on MMORPGs, but I still hang out on a message board with those same friends, and many of them play WoW now.

I like games like this now, turn based, come and go as I please, play a turn or two, and watch TV, read the boards, or spend time with my lady, etc etc. Not having to be on a schedule is nice.
 
AbuHab said:
WoW is a lot of fun, but I've finally realized it's not compatible with my personality. I'm obsessive/compulsive enough that I tend to strive for perfection more than I should, and I become frustrated when I don't achieve it.

In Civ, I try to create the "perfect" civilization, and I sometimes succeed, or at least come pretty close.

In WoW, I strove to create the "perfect" character. Unfortunately, the game, like most MMOs, is designed to never really allow perfection (and, consequently, to keep you paying $15 a month forever). In WoW, you're never really done with your character. There's always some additional and elusive goal just beyond the horizon.

If your personality is like mine, don't even think about trying WoW.
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My personality is most definately like yours. I would say I do have a bit of obsessive compulsive disorder.

Thanks for the advice.:)
 
I too am a recovering WoW addict. It was an incredibly fun game to play for a long time, but after a while you begin to realize the main reason you're playing is to keep in touch with the guildmates that you have gotten to know so well, and to try and keep up with everyone else gear wise. If you think about it, an MMO is not really even a game in the traditional sense where there are victory conditions and strategies. In fact, the game does go on forever and eventually you realize "holy crap, does it really matter if I have the best gear? to get that next item is another 100 hours of grinding this rep or those honor points." I think they took some steps in the right direction with the expansion by eliminating the need to raid to remain competitive, but at the end of the day, the "endgame" of WoW is just a pointless, endless treadmill. Not only that, but the playerbase and community of that game has taken a swan dive into a septic tank... It's hard to pinpoint where things started going horribly wrong, but if I had to take a guess I'd say it was when the implement paid transfers. The remaining players are by and large egomaniacal losers with no sense of team spirit or comraderie. Well, on my server it seemed that way anyhow.
 
Catan_Settler said:
. . . the "endgame" of WoW is just a pointless, endless treadmill. Not only that, but the playerbase and community of that game has taken a swan dive into a septic tank.
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I agree. The level of maturity, education, and civility of Civ players--based on the conversations on these forums at least--is orders of magnitude beyond that of the average WoW player. That's actually one of the things I missed most during my vacation from Civ.
 
Hello,

Is there a paper manual included with this or is it just PDF\civopedia?

thanks
 
DrWu said:
Hello,

Is there a paper manual included with this or is it just PDF\civopedia?

thanks
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My version of Civ IV:Complete came with a short paper manual and a poster of the tech-tree. Well worth the cash, best 40 bucks I have spent in a LONG time.
 
I rang in too early with the Civ IV Gold. Now I'm stuck trying to scrounge a cheap copy of BTS. So far it appears you can go a la carte and get Gold for about $20 and BTS for about $20 (last I looked on Amazon). Maybe there's a cheaper way out there.
 
aspower said:
I rang in too early with the Civ IV Gold.
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I came SO CLOSE to doing this as well. The only copies of Complete I could find were from "less than reputable" sources in places like Thailand and such. I actually had Gold IN my cart at Wally Mart (my local real store, not online, for 39.99), then put it back on the shelf and decided I would "tough it out" with the version offered by GameTap, plain, un-moddable Vanilla. Shortly after that, I got a tip on this board about gogamer, checked into them a bit, they seemed very solid, so I went for it. Took 5 days, grand total $38.50, which included US Postal Service Priority Mail shipping. As a special bonus, it actually arrived on my 45th birthday.
 
Does this European version of Civ IV Complete use British spellings (e.g., "colour" instead of "color," "recognise" instead of "recognize")?
 
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