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[Emperor Giulio]

Vespucci didn't actually name America, nor was he responsible for the first widely available maps. He did, however, sail far enough south to show that South America was a new continent, not the East Indies that Colombus had sought.

Cartography at that time was largely a German monopoly. Two such German cartographers, Martin Waldseemüller and Matthias Ringmann, drew up the first map showing the New World as such, mistakenly believing Vespucci to be the first European to reach it. Later, Waldseemüller tried to amend his mistake, but the name had already stuck.

Man, if was Colombus, I'd be pissed.

People in the Western Hemiphere should be called Colombians instead of Americans. Or if you want to get technical about it, we should be named after who ever the Viking was that found North America. OR if you want to go even further, we should have kept the name the Native Americans used.

 

[bestbrian]

He actually was, extremely, pissed.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

People in the Western Hemiphere should be called Colombians instead of Americans.

There was actually a frenzy about this in American history, which is why you've got a lot of places named Columbia. Hence Washington, District of Columbia, Columbia, South Carolina, etc.

Or if you want to get technical about it, we should be named after who ever the Viking was that found North America.

I don't think they quite knew about that at the time.

OR if you want to go even further, we should have kept the name the Native Americans used.

Massachusetts, Illinois, Manhattan, Detroit, Miami, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas, Mississippi, Wisconsin... need I say more?

 

[Fin Imperial]

I haven't really looked into this, but from what I saw from the list, didn't the Dutch name Manhattan? I've always thought it as an Dutch name.

 

[Incan Emperor]

Im Mexican.

 

[AmazonQueen]

I haven't really looked into this, but from what I saw from the list, didn't the Dutch name Manhattan? I've always thought it as an Dutch name.

Manhattan was supposedly the name of the tribe the Dutch bought the island from. Manhattes appears as the area name in the logbook of an English officer in 1614 before the Dutch bought the island.

 

[J-man]

@Fin Imperial, I'm not sure if Manhatten was named by 'us' but the name Brooklyn originates from Breukelen and Harlem comes from Haarlem.

 

[Onagan]

Manhattan comes from a Indian name.

 

[bestbrian]

As a proud New Yawka, let me add my two cents. The Dutch settlement of New Amsterdam was settled on the island the Indians called Manhattas that was purchased from either the Mahicans or Lenapes tribes. Queens was Visling which became Flushing (it's where the Mets play). Breucklein became Brooklyn. Josef Bronck's Farm became the Bronx. Staten Island was something, but I really don't care as it's really weird over there and they should just be part of Jersey. Great book on the history and impact of the early Dutch settlement (actually, one of the only ones) is The Island At The Center of the World; great read and I heartily recommend it.

 

[fugazi]

Dutch, Dutch.

I don't get it why Onagan says we're an intolerant-warmonger-racist-country. That our government has no backbone unless the issue at hand is a financial or economical one is sadly true though

 

[Leodavinci]

Latvian - you know State in Baltics on L and not Lithuania

Very long and happy Barbarian history
then 700 years of German culture
then 20 years back to Germanised barbarians
then 60 years of Russian Soviet ... mmm... culture (?)
Now got back to Barbarians again, fighting back Russian cultural pressure, running at 60% Latvian at the moment.

Long live the Thunder God Perkons!

Civ I like to play is Egypt

 

[J-man]

@Fugazi,
I would say that Onagan is generalising, but intolerance has gone up though on our country.

 

[OlegusTT]

Russian/Russia - Making globe all red...

 

[lordqarlyn]

It pisses me off when people say they're American. I've been here since 1639, my grandfathers founded the place and you guys try to take all the credit.

Cool, your background goes as far back as mine!

 

[Emperor Giulio]

It pisses me off when people say they're American. I've been here since 1639, my grandfathers founded the place and you guys try to take all the credit.

It’s true; I really have nothing to do with this whole Hemisphere. As a matter of fact, my Grandparents were enemies of the USA back in World War II. Sorry about that, but at least I pay the government taxes, seems fair.

 

[Draknith]

It pisses me off when people say they're American. I've been here since 1639, my grandfathers founded the place and you guys try to take all the credit.

First off, you haven't been here for any length of time that's important. Secondly, the "real" americans were probably pretty pissed off too when your grandfathers intruded on their land!

Anyone who comes to America and becomes a citizen of one of the many nations in this great land can, and should be proud to call themselves americans... Us americans from the USA just take extra pride...

 

[bestbrian]

We haven't heard from this crank in over a week, and now you guys just have to give him the attention he craves and bring him back in. You guys bit it, hook, line, and sinker.

 

[Tlalynet]

One Spark sets a fire.

But what he said is understandably infuriating to anyone from the States.

 

[dutchking]

Yeah, my ancestors just created the States, any old joe can come here and claim himself to be more of an American than the people who founded the place.

 

[3 EMS]

Californian
California was once Spanish > Spain
Then Mexican > Spain, Aztec
Briefly an independent Republic
Then joined the USA > America

I also like to play civs that represent my heritage. So i play Celts, Enlish/British (yes, another dumb American that interchange the two), and Germans.

Its fun to go with the old great civs too sometimes. Like Rome, Greece, and Egypt.