Civ4 shows liberal bias?

[Swiss Bezerker]

"It isn't pollution that is hurting the environment,
it's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
-Dan Quayle

"If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure."
-Dan Quayle

"We are not ready for an unforseen event that may or may not occur."
-Dan Quayle

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is by itself. It is a --it is different from the other 49 states. Well,
all states are different, but it's got a particularly unique situation."
-Dan Quayle

"It is wonderful to be here today in the great state of Chicago" - Dan Quayle

NOw tell us that Dan quayle isnt stupid, Merzbow

 

[zulu9812]

I've not read the whole thread, I'm just jumping in here.

Civ4 is a game which encourages the player to invade other countries purely for the satisfaction of it. It also provides no tangible downside to chucking nukes about. Finally, you can exterminate whole cities and the only country that really cares about it is the owner of that city.

Hardly liberal.

 

[Mise]

Lots of things have a X bias if you look at it from a Y perspective. Coca cola for example picked red as the colour of their brand because they were communists. That's right, one of the biggest corporations in the world was founded by communists.

 

[Mise]

This thread is a perfect reminder to why I maintain that there should be a minimum intelligence requirement to own the internet.

America owns the internet, and I think George Bush recently admitted when discussing Iraq that his intelligence was minimal.

EDIT: did I really spend 12 minutes reading this thread? :S

 

[blackheart]

Lots of things have a X bias if you look at it from a Y perspective. Coca cola for example picked red as the colour of their brand because they were communists. That's right, one of the biggest corporations in the world was founded by communists.

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Yuri2356]

7. I admit I was rather confused by having Mt. Rushmore come with Facism as well. I don't think they were trying to equate "American patriotism," a thoughtless cliche I knew you were bound to use at some point in your post, with the Nazis though. If they were, there are a lot of symbols of "American patriotism" that are much more relevant than the mountain with Presidents' faces carved into it. Still, I would be interested in hearing their reasons for putting Mt. Rushmore into the FAcism category; I just can't imagine how the two are even related, historically or otherwise.

Well, Fascism is, in part, nationalism taken to a greater-than-usual extrme, and it takes a lot of national pride (Or an eual amount of beer) to start carving your leader's faces into a mountain...

 

[Kayak]

Well, Fascism is, in part, nationalism taken to a greater-than-usual extrme, and it takes a lot of national pride (Or an eual amount of beer) to start carving your leader's faces into a mountain...

I was thinking more of a cult of the leader type thing. The fact that they made it go with Mt Rushmore just makes me smile.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

I read through the thread, and I must say:

This is just foolish.

@SB - Don't forget:
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."

 

[BasketCase]

Civ4 is a game which encourages the player to invade other countries purely for the satisfaction of it. It also provides no tangible downside to chucking nukes about. Finally, you can exterminate whole cities and the only country that really cares about it is the owner of that city.

Hardly liberal.

The Civ games encourage the player to invade other countries (or nuke them) to remove potential threats; gain valuable resources; gain territory; and to protect allies. Invading another country just for fun is a waste of troops, production, and funds, and places your homeland at risk. Invading imprudently or incorrectly (say, with insufficient force or by attacking too many other nations at once) can cause you to lose the game. The downsides to using nukes are the same as in the real world: environmental damage and pissed-off neighbors (in Civ3 anyway--I don't know if the rules are any different in Civ4).

The Civ games DO provide tangible downsides to throwing your military around and nuking things indiscriminately. But the downsides only exist inside the game.

There's a disturbing side to this, even though Civ is only a game: violence, totalitarian regimes, genocidal warfare, and large-scale nuclear devastation are extremely effective when used correctly. It's not impossible that those rules hold outside the game........

 

[DBear]

Dear Gawd, is this thread STILL open... :shakehead

 

[jar2574]

There's a disturbing side to this, even though Civ is only a game: violence, totalitarian regimes, genocidal warfare, and large-scale nuclear devastation are extremely effective when used correctly. It's not impossible that those rules hold outside the game........

or even unlikely

 

[allhailIndia]

I occassionally visit such threads since FOX News stopped airing in India

 

[Stapel]

I fail to see what most, if *anything*, of the points raised in the OP has to do with "liberals".

Please understand Americans use the phrase 'liberal' for those who want to take liberties away .....
It has probably to do with propaganda? Dunno....


BTW: Yes, I keep on going annoying you with this language thingy.

Annoying habit, to not understand your own language .

 

[Jawz II]

I occassionally visit such threads since FOX News stopped airing in India

congratulations


i actually agree with d-bear on this, this is beating the dead horse..

 

[Renata]

Please understand Americans use the phrase 'liberal' for those who want to take liberties away .....

Sez you. I want the greatest number of liberties for the greatest number of people, same as you; only difference is I believe the best way to go about it is to limit some liberties for some people so they don't turn around and do even worse to everyone else.

It has probably to do with propaganda? Dunno....
BTW: Yes, I keep on going annoying you with this language thingy.
Annoying habit, to not understand your own language .

Oh hush.

This has been rather the entertaining thread. Especially when I remember the topics posted in the GD forum after the game first came out (or was it just before) complaining about evil right-wing religious propaganda in the game like cleverly disguising the Lord's Prayer in the opening music.

 

[WoolyWoolwine83]

Civ 4 LIberal Bias? If you are going to be liberal, don't show your bias in your games. I am probably sure that not a lot of it is intentional, but some are just ridiculous.

Discovering Liberalism gives you a free technology--What's that all about? No wonder why it leads to communism in the game.

Plus, FDR is overrated. During the depression, he ordered the slaughter of 6 million pigs and the burning of 10 million acres of cotton. Niether WWII, FDR or the New Deal brought America (along with the rest of non-communist Europe) out of the depression....A return to FREE MARKET ACTIVITY after the war did. The German Economic advisor after WWII even admitted it.

And why not Al Gore at the bottom? His quotes are just as bad as Dan Quayle's

"It is clear that space is a priority for NASA"

"Everyone here lived in this century. I did not live in this century."

Oh, right....They already have an icon of him for the internet.

 

[ggganz]

Umm, Dan Quayle, of course. Yeah we all can laugh at him for his obvious Yogi Berrisms, but a far better choice would have been Jimmy Carter (who considered 'killer rabbits' more of a threat than the Soviet Union).

One word: potatoe.

 

[blackheart]

For the love of god, stop reviving dead threads with your rubbish.
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