Civics and how to use them

[siff]

I wanted to look more closely at civics when I found out that I was doing a lot of mistakes in the game because of them.

The files that I have compiled look at emphasizing civics for special kind of tasks. The tasks I'm looking at are: Military production, Growth, Building production, Research, Gold, Religion, Going to war and Happyness.

When doing the list, my angle is; what civics should I be using for different tasks. This is rather one sided and a narrow view of the game, but I feel it can help in choosing civics for a selected strategy.

This list is not a complete, since that would require a lot more detailed view. It is also not perfect and open for debate, as of now

Important point is that I have not tested this in the game, that would requre a lot of work and I'm hoping the community will help there and in the debate, so that the list can be improved.

If anyone wishes to do some more work on it, feel free. I present it as a html file and an excel file, since I don't know how to enter it here in the current format, or even if the forum offers it (html tables). If someone can put it up here, I would (and probably others) be gratefull.

The htm file

The excel file (excel 2003)

Last but not least, it is quite handy to print a smaller version of the list on one paper and keep one the side while playing.

Siff

 

[siff]

Here is an image of the table, it's much nicer

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[Gungalley]

Hi, can you explain what Req. action means? For example, when emphasizing military production. why req. action is buidling cottages?

 

[siff]

It costs money to hold on to a large military, cottages generate income to that end.

Siff

 

[Lucas87]

wow, no love for environmentalism as the modern growth civic. I usually focus on a smaller empire with 3-4 amazing cities. Obviously these amazing cities need to grow big and they are usually unhelathy for me. I usually get it as soon as I can reasonably in the late game. Also, no love for pacifism, possibly my favourite civic. Again, I play with a few megacities, so they have lots of specialists and wonders, so they really churn out the great people. You want to make sure you have an academy in all your big cities, so I find pacifism big. Engineers are very nice too, they help you maintain your super wonder massing in your megacities. Obviously you want to have a great prophet for every religion you founded too. Anyway, I'm a big fan of pacifism and noted you omitted. I noticed you share my appreciation for bureaucracy. My capital is very often my best city, so it rocks. On one-city challenge it is the king. Representation is my favourite government civic, but once my 2500 gold from great merchants start streaming in, I like to switch to universal suffrage to be able to use that cash. The labor ones seem fairly useless. I go for serfdom most of the game but once my workers have done everything, I go for emancipation just to piss off the AI. Sometimes I go for free speech since I typically have around 4 megacities that produce a lot of culture anyway, so if I decide I want a cultural victory, I go for free speech ASAP. Anyway, I thought I'd just let you know how someone else plays the civic. I'm obviously mostly a peacemonger/techer. I'm not saying mine are actually the best way to go, just what I end up doing.

 

[weimingshi]

the civic system you choose not only depends on your goal, but large determined by the hapiness of your empire. For example, in my game, I play on emperor level, but I still managed to get all the happiness resources and 5 religion in all my cities, so my cities happiness is 5 or 6 happy face more than the max population. I can leave government civic on universal suffrage, war or peace time. I don't really need free religion for the happiness boost neither, better go with pacifism. So in the end civic system more depends on happiness of your empire than anything else really.

 

[siff]

As I sayed, the list is not complete. I realise it is one sided and mostly oriented towards growth and war. Hopefully I will get enough input to add to it.

Thanks guys

Siff

 

[Padmewan]

Brilliant. Something like this would help out folks who aren't maxing out their spiritual trait.

Another major function you should consider is Culture: Representation, Free Speech, Caste System, Free Market, Pacifism or Free Religion depending on situation.