COTM11 Pre-game discussion

[Greenlocke]

Just a quick question regarding the FP. What about waste? Doesn't it decrease waste in the nearby cities? I don't remember reading that anywhere, but I seem to remember my last FP jumping the production value of surrounding cities...

For the game itself, I think I will have to sacrifice at least 2 worker turns scouting the mountain. SE is looking like the probably starting point, however I am not a big fan of palace jumping - call me a purist - so I might end up going North with the Settler. Peninsulas drive me crazy!

I really wish we were dealing with a harder difficulty level (at least, I do for now) however I hope that there are elements of the game which contribute to the game's overall difficulty (ie: few resources, awful map, strong nearby opponenets.). I think that we might see the first two, however, on regent I doubt that the AI will be much of a threat. I will probably stick with my traditional warmongering technique, utilizing the H'wacha to break down enemy forces.

One last question, though. I have read quite a bit about Republic yet have had a hard time making any of the strategies worthwhile. What is the primary benefit? Do small nations recieve more benefits from corruption? I have kept a small offensive army and utilized marketplaces and libraries - where am I going wrong? I just don't see the advantage (Although I don't win by cultural victory very often). Perhaps my barracks are affecting my $... Any hints?

 

[Megalou]

@zxe,
No one who has started playing is allowed to answer your questions in this thread. I suggest you post them somewhere else if you want a discussion on those issues.

 

[hookmonkey]

@Megalou:

It's not a question about COTM11! He only asked about how to run a republic without losing money.

@zxe:

What I usually do to make money is keep a small but good offensive army (like you said) and built lots of marketplaces after I get republic. It also helps having some luxuries (more then 3 luxuries is good) so you don't have to use the luxury taxes slider thing. If you don't have 3 or more luxuries you should find some nations that are a (few) techs behind and sell your techs for money and luxuries. Ofcourse if you want to sell your techs for luxuries you also need some libaries and universities. It also helps when other civs are in republic so they make some money and can buy your techs.

If you wanna conquer your luxuries you better of in a monarchy!

Am I helping or do you know this already?? hehe Well.. hope I answered your question.

 

[Megalou]

What I stated is just an echo of the rules. Personally I also find it hard to believe that one can answer these questions in this thread without involving the current game. So the questions are either inviting spoiling or simply in the wrong thread. It's no crime to ask them, and hookmonkey's answers are neutral and basic, but I'm trying to give you some advice!

 

[A'AbarachAmadan]

@zxe,

Regarding corruption: in C3C there are two types, rank from Palace only and distance from Palace or FP; see http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...&threadid=76619

Regarding starting postion: see my earlier posts as to my thoughts and consider starting bonuses and challenges given to make your decision

Regarding Republic: my normal warmonger strategy is to go for the Republic slingshot and quit research at Chivalry, I build only barracks and usually 1-3 granaries first - note no libraries or marketplaces; for military, I build only horsemen (no defense, very few exploring warriors which I either upgrade or disband) - after research is shut off I use the gold to upgrade and attack until I reach domination - of course if you like later techs you could start research again after upgrades are done; this still works going for 100K, I just build libraries, colloseums & cathedrals - ToA gets my Temples, preferably captured, for me and since I don't reach education, no universities

 

[King Of America]

NE looks better to me than SE -- it offers more food and shields both in the starting 8 and full city radius.

The only exception might be 20K with capital as wonder city -- moving NE knocks out Col. and GrLighthouse--but extra production might compensate for this anyway.

To be sure, N, NE might be better still-but I'm still trying to fine-tune my early game, so any comments on my logic here would be appreciated.

 

[TyranusBonehead]

I'm getting my tuckus handed to me on a platter! Maybe this game isn't for me after all. I'm so far behind that I'm thinking seriously about giving up and trying a different game, maybe KOTOR2, maybe WoW.

I don't see a way to pull this one out................ :suicide:

Seriously though, CivIII/Conquests has been the most difficult game I've ever tried to get a handle on, maybe RPG is more my style. I've outgrown the fast-twitch FPS games, deathmatch gets kind of boring after a few minutes.

No point in my post really, just wish I could play CivIII like you guys.

UPDATE: Removed spoilers, saved the gripes

 

[Tubby Rower]

@ TyranusBonehead, that is spoiler information and shouldn't be posted here.

 

[MeteorPunch]

@Tyranus: I think you should play whatever games you have fun with. I'm a big fan of both FPS games(D3, Far Cry, etc) and KotoR(haven't played 2 yet), *and* Civ. If it frustrates you to do badly, read strategy articles and commit to getting better.