Deleted the initial settler

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So I wondered if this would work. Small size map, six civs, max (28) city states. I set up policy saving, raging barbarians, complete kills, and chieftain level as the German empire. I deleted my initial settler right away. Now all I have is one lone German warrior. First set of ruins I found gave me a culture boost so I picked the honor tree. Since I will need that bonus against barbarians.

I found two barb camps, killed them and had a brute added each time. So now I have a three unit army which I used to take out the city state of Sydney and created a puppet. Then I declared war on Quebec City to get their worker. Now I have perma-war against three city states. I need to find some more barbarian camps as I am down to just one unit (lost two during the siege of Sydney). I also picked up some more culture by killing brutes so I picked up a Great General through warrior code and also was able to get Military Tradition as well. I'm not sure where this game is going but I wonder if I can without founding a single city. I'm guessing not. Not even on Chieftain level.

TL;DR Deleted my starting settler and am trying to win.
 
Just crazy enough to be interesting. Let us know how it goes! :lol:
 
Well, so far I learned that if you conquer a city-state and puppet it, a palace will appear and that city will be your capital even if it is a puppet. I also spent some money allying with a military city-state and got a Maori warrior out of that. I may start this over on as I wanted to do without any cities and it slipped my mind that I can't raze city-states. So now I'm stuck with Sydney as a capital. I definitely think this is do-able.

If nothing else I could always select the policy that gives a free settler and go from there. I usually play on King so I'm pretty sure I could come back from this slow start on Chieftain level. I would like to do it without any cities at all.

Also, does anyone know if I do this without founding a city and I take over Rome or another capital, will that city then be my capital as well?
 
Also, does anyone know if I do this without founding a city and I take over Rome or another capital, will that city then be my capital as well?

yes.

if you turn on OCC you'd autoraze all your opponent's capitals... unfortunately when you're down to one opponent you'd lose (as they'll be the only one with a capital left). maybe if you defeat the last two on the same turn you'd win.
 
This reminds me of a mod to X3: Terran Conflict. The mod is supposed to make things harder on your initial start, because vanilla can be relatively easy depending on what start you pick.

In the base game, you fly ships around. If you take damage, you can jump out of your ship in your space suit and use the repair laser (which is part of the suit) to fix it.

One mod had accidentally replaced the repair laser on your suit with a (weak) energy weapon... leading some to think that you were supposed to go carjack your first spaceship Grand Theft Auto style with nothing but your spacesuit and its mistakenly attached peashooter.

It was actually a mistake in the mod. It does make the game harder, but not THAT hard. Still, it led to some good laughs in the thread.
 
Well, so far I learned that if you conquer a city-state and puppet it, a palace will appear and that city will be your capital even if it is a puppet. I also spent some money allying with a military city-state and got a Maori warrior out of that. I may start this over on as I wanted to do without any cities and it slipped my mind that I can't raze city-states. So now I'm stuck with Sydney as a capital. I definitely think this is do-able.

If nothing else I could always select the policy that gives a free settler and go from there. I usually play on King so I'm pretty sure I could come back from this slow start on Chieftain level. I would like to do it without any cities at all.

Also, does anyone know if I do this without founding a city and I take over Rome or another capital, will that city then be my capital as well?

Well you can't win Conquest with 0 cities (you win by controlling your capital)
You can't win Space/ or Culture

You Might theoretically be able to Win Diplomacy. (You'd have to have a source of gold and Militaristic CSs providing you with your only updated units..since you can't upgrade them anywhere.).. and you'd have to survive that way long enough for someone Else to build the UN.
 
I'm curious; if you settle your first city after taking over a city state/foreign city, which one is considered your original capital?
 
Your capital doesn't move unless you build a new capital.

This idea has been discussed several times before, though not recently. There are lots of possible fun variations on it, I think I might try it next time I fire up the game.
 
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