do i have to use a illegal program to play?

[Mementh]

i can't get the game to play.. the saferom.. securerom whatever BS is making it IMPOSSABLE for me to run...

now i did get it running with a illegal program which i DO NOT WANT TO USE..

how do i make this work ? the "copy" protection again is proving to make LEGAL players unable to play and illegal players just don't care...

 

[Mementh]

well from what i have read some.. i have to.. at least till they fix it?

sigh

 

[Ghost22]

are you talking about cracks? cracks aren't illegal as long as you own the actual game and have it on you.

 

[Yrth]

I can't play either. Everything was fine until yesterday. Now, my DVD drive makes all kinds of noises when I try to load CivIV. I don't have problems loading movies or other games that require a disc in drive to play.

What is up?

 

[Mementh]

are you talking about cracks? cracks aren't illegal as long as you own the actual game and have it on you.

but the problem is.. i SHOULD NOT HAVE TO USE THESE PROGRAMS to play a game

 

[Ghost22]

but the problem is.. i SHOULD NOT HAVE TO USE THESE PROGRAMS to play a game

Yes, you shouldn't. But if you can get it to work with a crack anyway, then what difference does it make?

 

[Mementh]

Yes, you shouldn't. But if you can get it to work with a crack anyway, then what difference does it make?

because companies should realize copying by persons does nto hurt there bottom line

piracy does...

what the diffrence? in the first you make a copy for yourself/familymember/friend.

in the second you sell it...

which is worse for a company... somone thats will just copy it.. or somone that will take money from somone else without you getting profit?

 

[Manda77]

Ok I am having a strange problem to, My tutorial runs fine and I can play it. Everything works like it should graphics, sound the whole nine yards. When I go to Single Player mode and customize or just choose some options and then tell it to play, it goes to the loading screen and it says DONE then it crashes back to windows and thats it. It shuts down completely....I am getting real ticked off I hope someone can tell me how to fix this. I have not downloaded the patch because I am on dial up and I only have a 21 baud connection. So PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mementh]

Ok I am having a strange problem to, My tutorial runs fine and I can play it. Everything works like it should graphics, sound the whole nine yards. When I go to Single Player mode and customize or just choose some options and then tell it to play, it goes to the loading screen and it says DONE then it crashes back to windows and thats it. It shuts down completely....I am getting real ticked off I hope someone can tell me how to fix this. I have not downloaded the patch because I am on dial up and I only have a 21 baud connection. So PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!

patch.. sorry but it probabbly will fix your error set it to download while you sleep

 

[dragontail]

See this post. Do you have (real) scsi and IDE devices connected to PC? If so my understanding is that you'll need the "illegal program" although I see nothing illegal or immoral here.

 

[warmwaffles]

ACTUALLY I had the same problem...

I converted the CD to .mds and got the helpful tool called Daemon Tools...awsome AWSOME tool...

beware it is used to play .iso's which are typically DLed "illegally" even though I call it sharing.

 

[Mementh]

See this post. Do you have (real) scsi and IDE devices connected to PC? If so my understanding is that you'll need the "illegal program" although I see nothing illegal or immoral here.

yep i do have a addon card (mobo does not support 200 gig drives) so.. thats what it is.. ****.. come on people.. this is just a small step above sony's rootkit..


banning it because it emulates something else because oyu banned it for being a perfectly legal program which can be gotten around still so you change to another protection that will be gotten around in the warez scene days before you release it..


is anyone else seeing this circle.. you create a game.. it gets pirated.... you add in anti copy measures.. they get broken... you get new ones they get broken

you get extreme ones which sadely gives some of your LEGAL users issues because the illegal ways of doing it uses legal ways that you can't tell the diffrence so you have issues

i am so close to returning my copy and using a illegal copy... the only thing that stops me is i like the game and willing to support the creators


cd keys work great... though they can be faked... requireing a activation online works good.. and honestly i wonder how many machines have 0 access to the net nowadays

i mean if you want to make it 100% secure (and not affect legal users) you set it up to dial a 800# via a modem for dial up users that verifys then it downloads a file or sets a registry key with a 128+bit encryption which authenticates your play..

and those online with cable and no dial up a sercure website...

but for those casually stealing they wont be stopped.. those stealing heavily wont even see this as a hickup







solution?



don't put any protection on.. minimal cd key only. (make it so cdkey is linked to online account)

 

[warmwaffles]

Steam does this....Breaking a steam account is hard and if you do you face criminal charges.
and MAcromedia too...they make you put in a CD key and then they want you to make an online account...

This is sort of like warfare with armor...

I make an armor that can stop any bullet up to date. Well people on our own side say hey lets see if we can make something peirce it so we know what we dont want to fight.

The pierce the armor. I go back again and make an EVEN better armor...it too later gets broken.

The only way to combat theft is to keep fighting it...

Plus someone will just crack that registery key and then distribute it on the "underground"

 

[FordPrefectA]

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Don't post this again.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

sniff sniff yes sir

 

[Mementh]

Steam does this....Breaking a steam account is hard and if you do you face criminal charges.
and MAcromedia too...they make you put in a CD key and then they want you to make an online account...

This is sort of like warfare with armor...

I make an armor that can stop any bullet up to date. Well people on our own side say hey lets see if we can make something peirce it so we know what we dont want to fight.

The pierce the armor. I go back again and make an EVEN better armor...it too later gets broken.

The only way to combat theft is to keep fighting it...

Plus someone will just crack that registery key and then distribute it on the "underground"

exactly... but the problem is.. ALL warez has keygens and ways around the protection... so what to do cept make it so they don't need warez/keygens

i remember a long time ago i had a intrusion detection system and one of the keygens wanted to write to my registry... (denied it but if they could do that without me knowing what else are they doing)

so i kinda stepped away from warez....... most of the stuff i have i bought now.. the other was free stuff (like firefox)