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Does anyone actually build Beasts of Agares?

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I think that the Chinese people will start to value individualism more (I deliberately avoid the term "rights" as in human "rights" but I like those ideals nonetheless) for a number of reasons. The Tianamen square massacre was against the type of people who I think valued individualism more than the Chinese government and I think that there will be many more of them out there and I also think that their voices will grow louder over time.
 
Am I the only one not taking this discussion into the realms of reality?

This is a dark fantasy mod. Evil people are evil, and gobble up nice friendly good people. Evil people torture, good people dont etc. It's a game...

Al
Actually, dark fantasy is where the lines between good and evil are blurred, not absolute.

(apologies to vorshlumpf)

:p
 
But also in dark fantasy, the evil are more evil. Usually the wicked advisor wants to usurp the rightful king so he can rule. The brave and righteous knight must put things right, becoming a new and just king.
In FfH, the evil advisor murders the king so he can sacrifice the citizens to summon demons. The surviving knight, a greedy drunk, manages to rally the beleagered peasants or blackmail the neighboring kingdom into overthrowing the wicked, demonic advisor, instilling a good kingdom again, for a few years at least, until he is corrupted and overthrown.
Basically, everyone is shifted a bit towards the base, but the evil are even more evil.
 
Actually, dark fantasy is where the lines between good and evil are blurred, not absolute.

(apologies to vorshlumpf)

:p

LOL got that reply when I posted this in another place by accident. Yeah ur right I guess lol.

Was just trying to point out that it's a fantasy game where people being mauled or eaten or something horrible isn't exactly applicable to real life :)

Only the mechanics of technology or general logic are something that is worthy of a REALLY heated debate :)

Al
 
Sorry about the thread derailment, I should have realized my comments would spark a bit of an uproar.

All of us can agree that genocide is bad, but when you look at the historical record, it is clearly shown to bring a lot of wealth and peace to the people who commit it (as opposed to the people it's commited on.) Look at the Spanish in the Americas, the Persians in Babylon, the Americas and their "manifest destiny," etc. Yes, there is a significant human cost, but the question is: were the state's objectives fulfilled? Did it "work"?

It wasn't just Saddam Hussein who wanted to gas villages. Winston Churchill also advocated the use of poison gas against the Kurds, back when Iraq was still part of the British Empire. It's easy to lump the world into good and evil, right and wrong, when you look at it from far away. But the truth of the matter is much more grey- all states do terrible things to maintain their power, and every great nation's hands are stained with blood. This is mostly a response to the guy who said we should avoid certain acts because "they are evil." I believe that such logic is a path to defeat. If you still don't like what I said, well, let's just agree to disagree.

On a side note, Tibet has prospered, and the Tibetans themselves haven't been harmed any worse than any other group in China has been harmed (including the Han majority.) The bulk of grievances Tibetans bring to bear against the Chinese are from the Cultural Revolution, a disastrous time for the entire country. There was no specific effort against the Tibetans. Even today, the "government immigrants" you hear about are mostly skilled, educated people who move into the interior in pursuit of new development and business opportunities. The government wants to encourage this economic growth in impoverished areas, so it provides them with extra compensation because they need to move away from their homes, family, and friends in the cities.

Also, I don't appreciate being told my thoughts aren't valid because I'm "a Chinese Communist."
 
Let's not talk about the British, Tibetan or Chinese.

How about Bannor, Doviello, Sheaim...

Would they value individual life - especially one that does not conform to their world view?

Would they put evil people to the sword? (Bannor)

Drive the enemy nobility out of the city and farmlands to survive on their own in the wilds - naked? (Doviello)

Sacrifice them to the demons? (Sheaim)
 
Let's not talk about the British, Tibetan or Chinese.

How about Bannor, Doviello, Sheaim...

Would they value individual life - especially one that does not conform to their world view?

Would they put evil people to the sword? (Bannor)

Drive the enemy nobility out of the city and farmlands to survive on their own in the wilds - naked? (Doviello)

Sacrifice them to the demons? (Sheaim)

The bannor imho would be perfectly fine with sacrificing a large amount of people for the greater good, just as the Sheiam would be perfectly fine sacrificing a large amount of people in general. The Doviello are a lot more selfcentered, anything that helps them survive (despite any harm it may cause to other nations) is a good thing.
 
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