Does Anyone Still Play This Game????
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Well, this is my tuppence'es worth...
AC is not Abandonware at this stage. To the best of my info, it has not been re-releaced either. Therefore, unless Fraxis either re-release it or explicitly ban AW sites from hosting it, is should be avalible around this year or so. It does rather depend on the attatude of the parent company- some are quite supportive, most are grudging (EA leaves the present AW alone, but has banned any additions) and a couple go into aneurysms over it (not even allowing manuals for .pdf download.)
I've attempted to dig around to mod the graphics too. I've modded Civ II to hell (it looks nearly like III!) but no luck on AC yet. To be honest, I've not tried very hard. My energies have been distracted by my CIII scenario and my Operation Flashpoint island. If you have any luck, please tell me!
AC is not Abandonware at this stage. To the best of my info, it has not been re-releaced either. Therefore, unless Fraxis either re-release it or explicitly ban AW sites from hosting it, is should be avalible around this year or so. It does rather depend on the attatude of the parent company- some are quite supportive, most are grudging (EA leaves the present AW alone, but has banned any additions) and a couple go into aneurysms over it (not even allowing manuals for .pdf download.)
I've attempted to dig around to mod the graphics too. I've modded Civ II to hell (it looks nearly like III!) but no luck on AC yet. To be honest, I've not tried very hard. My energies have been distracted by my CIII scenario and my Operation Flashpoint island. If you have any luck, please tell me!
I still play this game. its just as good now as its ever been. The graphics suck, but other than that, its a great game.
Firaxis really tee me off over it though. i tried for ages to get alien crossfire. i have owned it in the past but the years destroyed the disc. About 4 emails to firaxis over the years went unanswered and I refuse to pay the ridiculous second hand price of 200 dollars or so for the game.
Firaxis wont re release, answer mails, or make it available for download or purchase. I really cant see why they dont sell it online download only or let someone like gamersgate do it, but its criminal lack of support for fans.
So if anyone knows where to get a working copy of alien crossfire please pm me. Ive tried torrent versions, and in fact had eventually found a working one a year or so ago but i changed my pc since, and forgot to back it up. Now i cant find it again and keep seeing german versions or versions that require you to mount virtual cd drives etc which is a pain. Just want the up to date patched version that works with no cd.
Firaxis really tee me off over it though. i tried for ages to get alien crossfire. i have owned it in the past but the years destroyed the disc. About 4 emails to firaxis over the years went unanswered and I refuse to pay the ridiculous second hand price of 200 dollars or so for the game.
Firaxis wont re release, answer mails, or make it available for download or purchase. I really cant see why they dont sell it online download only or let someone like gamersgate do it, but its criminal lack of support for fans.
So if anyone knows where to get a working copy of alien crossfire please pm me. Ive tried torrent versions, and in fact had eventually found a working one a year or so ago but i changed my pc since, and forgot to back it up. Now i cant find it again and keep seeing german versions or versions that require you to mount virtual cd drives etc which is a pain. Just want the up to date patched version that works with no cd.
Sub
in omnia paratus
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Do you have a link to the mods that improve Civ II's graphics?
And I just started playing AC again.
bob bobato
L'imparfait
Not umm, really...got it perfect condition Iso...torrent..lotta seeders, was really fast...'nowtorrent', pick from 'btjunkie'...[shuffles away in shame]
Gelion
Retired Captain
Was it Alien Crossfire?
Waay OT, but as this place is the virtual equivilant of a small closet in a dusty wing of the site, I don't really care.
No link i'm afraid, I did all this back in '02 and never shared it or stored it or anything
mad If there is a mod that does this - I don't know where it is. But it's not very difficult to do.
-Units. Draw some new units, or DL a load off of here or Apoliton if you are a lazy sod like me. Most are better than the standard stuff on the vanilla. Simply C+P them over the file (remember, open it as a .bmp)
-Cities. Out there, somewhere there are several city sets which follow the isometric square rather than the **** ones that are there at the moment. Try looking in scenarios. Again, just C+P them over.
-Terrain. A little harder, as to get all the roads etc to fit together. Look in scen's that have full new terrain sets - I used one I 'borrowed' from a Europe WWI scen I found here back in '02.
-Improvements, wonders etc. They are all the same basics. Find something new you want, then look through the .bmps that are in your ...Civilization II\ file, then C+P over the original.
Or you could just wait for me to finish the one I'm doing at the moment. Should be finished in a week or so.
...I once managed to cram a working CII onto three 3½ floppies a few years ago. It was around 4MB, although I did .zip it up good and proper, after stripping it to the bone. Who needs torrent?
No link i'm afraid, I did all this back in '02 and never shared it or stored it or anything
mad If there is a mod that does this - I don't know where it is. But it's not very difficult to do.-Units. Draw some new units, or DL a load off of here or Apoliton if you are a lazy sod like me. Most are better than the standard stuff on the vanilla. Simply C+P them over the file (remember, open it as a .bmp)
-Cities. Out there, somewhere there are several city sets which follow the isometric square rather than the **** ones that are there at the moment. Try looking in scenarios. Again, just C+P them over.
-Terrain. A little harder, as to get all the roads etc to fit together. Look in scen's that have full new terrain sets - I used one I 'borrowed' from a Europe WWI scen I found here back in '02.
-Improvements, wonders etc. They are all the same basics. Find something new you want, then look through the .bmps that are in your ...Civilization II\ file, then C+P over the original.
Or you could just wait for me to finish the one I'm doing at the moment. Should be finished in a week or so.
...I once managed to cram a working CII onto three 3½ floppies a few years ago. It was around 4MB, although I did .zip it up good and proper, after stripping it to the bone. Who needs torrent?
Dharma Punk Dan
Chieftain
I recently did a fresh Windows reinstall and SMAC is one of the first games I put on it. I've been playing it again recently and prefer it to most of my other games. As it turns out, all I need for strategy after two decades of playing is SMAC and Civ III. Civ II is great...if you like the enemy settling on your continent and poor AI waypoint tracking.
My SMAX disc no longer works, however, but I found a working copy at Home of the Underdogs. It's a lot better than paying over $100 for the Planetary Pack.
My SMAX disc no longer works, however, but I found a working copy at Home of the Underdogs. It's a lot better than paying over $100 for the Planetary Pack.
Slaughter
Paladin
Hey guys, someone knows good mods for Alpha Centauri? I was thinking about playing some new experiences in AC...
I found my Alpha Centauri and expansion disk a couple of weeks ago after having misplaced them a few years ago. The graphics do kinda suck when compared to today's games, but I love this game! This to me is the best Civ game ever made. I do wish they would do a graphics remake of the game without screwing up everything else that makes this game rock. Don't screw with gameplay, just update the graphics.
GooglyBoogly
Freakamongus
And fix the bugs....
Forced pollution 'pop' before raising the pollution cap is my biggest heckle.
Forced pollution 'pop' before raising the pollution cap is my biggest heckle.
vyeh
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If by raising the pollution cap, you mean that a tree farm, hybrid forest, centauri forest, or temple of planet built in ONE base raises the number of clean minerals in EVERY BASE, I think that is a bug.
If you want this to happen before the first pollution pop, I think this aggravates the bug.
The reason I think this is the bug is that the datalinks DO mention that each pollution 'pop' raises the clean mineral limit, but it DOES NOT mention that construction of tree farm, hybrid forest, centauri forest, or temple of planet raises the clean mineral limit for any base (including the base they are constructed in).
It is clear from the datalinks that the designers did intend that each pollution 'pop' would raise the clean mineral limit at every base. Maybe the rationale is that every time you have a pollution catastrophe you learn something in preventing future catastrophes.
I could see going the other way; every time you have a catastrophe, it weakens the environment and makes it more likely that another catastrophe will occur.
If you are saying that forcing a 'pop' shouldn't raise the pollution limit, I agree with you. I would characterize it as a bad design decision rather than as a bug, since it is clear that the designers INTENDED to raise the clean mineral limit with each 'pop' and I use the term bug to refer to situations where there is an UNINTENDED result.
I loved Alpha Centauri when it first came out and I still do.
In my opinion, it might be the best Civ game ever released in terms of gameplay. I think the, "wonder" movies were just spectacular. I don't know why there were hardly ever any mods made for this game. Oh well.
I would say that Alpha Centauri is probably still my personal favorite Civ game.
I never thought that in terms of gameplay, Civ 4 was that much of a substantial improvement but I guess that just might be my personal opinion.
In my opinion, it might be the best Civ game ever released in terms of gameplay. I think the, "wonder" movies were just spectacular. I don't know why there were hardly ever any mods made for this game. Oh well.
I would say that Alpha Centauri is probably still my personal favorite Civ game.
I never thought that in terms of gameplay, Civ 4 was that much of a substantial improvement but I guess that just might be my personal opinion.
Alpha Centauri may be the only Civ-like in which the whole world is -really- impacted by what you are building, global decisions, and even by weapons.
I don't remember a Civ-like in which the nature "fight back" when you threaten/pollute it, where you can modify drastically the environment by either buildings, melting polar cap or launching tectonic/fungus missiles, where destruction weaponry (planet busters) can actually do massive destruction by even changing the whole shape of the world...
That without even mentionning the factions characterisation and diplomacy system that are so well done you don't feel you are playing against a code, but against individuals. Or all of those very good gameplay additions, with your own society choices, the various and sometime original way to win (or lose), the otherworldly feel of Planet that is very well done despite those not very high res red pixels, the discoveries that are always important, the factions leader you can free from capture, Crossfire expansion adding even more interesting factions to the already great selection, etc...
All in all, Alpha Centauri is for me the best civ-like i ever played, it is not a surprise that i continue to play it each weeks.
I don't remember a Civ-like in which the nature "fight back" when you threaten/pollute it, where you can modify drastically the environment by either buildings, melting polar cap or launching tectonic/fungus missiles, where destruction weaponry (planet busters) can actually do massive destruction by even changing the whole shape of the world...
That without even mentionning the factions characterisation and diplomacy system that are so well done you don't feel you are playing against a code, but against individuals. Or all of those very good gameplay additions, with your own society choices, the various and sometime original way to win (or lose), the otherworldly feel of Planet that is very well done despite those not very high res red pixels, the discoveries that are always important, the factions leader you can free from capture, Crossfire expansion adding even more interesting factions to the already great selection, etc...
All in all, Alpha Centauri is for me the best civ-like i ever played, it is not a surprise that i continue to play it each weeks.
I echo most of the reasons others still play this game. I'm just finishing off another stint as the Gaians because I couldn't get the same level of enjoyment from BTS and Civ4Col. I may just go back and work my way through the other factions.
Still can't get a copy of SMAX for my PC in Australia: Laptop Collection not available here and eBay copies are too rare and thus expensive.
Funnily enough, SMAC goes well on my laptop with Vista, but not so well on my desktop with XP ...
Still can't get a copy of SMAX for my PC in Australia: Laptop Collection not available here and eBay copies are too rare and thus expensive.
Funnily enough, SMAC goes well on my laptop with Vista, but not so well on my desktop with XP ...
NwabudikeMorgan
CEO
I still play SMAC a fair bit even though it's been like 10 years now, but IMHO I think that SMAC is superior to SMAX, I could never get the same feeling of identity with the new factions, and the aliens and their resonance etc techs just seemed hokey to me, I like the New native life stuff like the fungal towers, but I coulden't love it as i did SMAC.
GooglyBoogly
Freakamongus
You shouldn't need the disk to play them, as long as you still have the install on your comp somewhere. It is litkely you will just be missing out on the Secret Project movies since the full install was rather large.
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