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Earth 18 Civs

Have you played the Earth18 civs map?

  • Yes

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Da_V_Man

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I am guessing this is the most played scenario that came with any of the Civ 4 versions. For me, I haven't played it up until now where my computer before wouldn't be able to handle it. Now I am playing it for the first time

Currently, I am playing as the English. At the beginning, I founded London 1 tile diagonally up to the left to minimize overlap with Paris. I knew I needed some more cities, so I built a few galleons and a bunch of axes and took Paris, with which Louis was defending with warriors (it was also the Jewish holy city). Immediatley afterwards I took Spain down, who had founded Buddhism (surprise surprise) and then focused on Germany.

By this time I was ahead in tech, score and power. I took their captial, but then Rome and India declared war on me, so I had to re-organize to face their onslaught. I was able to take the Roman capital and another one of their cities, but then I couldn't find their last one, so I then re-focused on Germany, who Catherine asked me to DOW on Fredrick again, since she was my ally and and I wanted Munich, I went-a conquering. I took Munich, then the Greeks, who also DOWed Germany took their last city.

I recently got the Jewish wedding event with Alexander (but he was Buddhist) so I chose the even that made him trigger war against me. I took out Sparta, his Captial, the previously German city that he just conquered and now I'm moving towards his last city in europe. I also found out where the Romans were hiding. It turns out that Julius founded a city just south of Moscow, so I conquered that too (It was also the Christian holy city). I am also moving on Julius's other city, in which he seems to be founding westward.

Looking at Alexander's trade screen, I noticed he had two cities left. One was a conquered barbarian one. When I got paper, I traded maps with the world and noticed his last city is in southeast asia! I think I will vassalize him, or maybe not.

And that's where I currently am with Earth18. What was your first game like?
 
I played my first game with Julius Caesar. I expanded as much as I could northeast towards Russia, then Praetorian rushed the rest of Continental Europe. Once I got Astronomy, I tried to send as many settlers to South America as possible, and towards the end of the game I conquered England with Modern Armor and Mech Infantry. I ended up winning by a Time Victory (this was one of my first games).
 
The Romans always have a way of founding cities at random places, the Greeks also always tend to nab a city in Southeast Asia in the games I play.
I generally don't like playing with England as its a little too easy to get a good score while safe on that island. I do like playing as France though and expanding right through Europe and into Persia,
 
The Aztec is powerful and America in the game always be vassal of Aztec.
I also wonder why America like to build his second city NewYork in the place where Chicago should be.
 
I play it without the Azetcs/Americans on, its just not true to real life.
The Aztecs always expand and advance to far beyond what they were and its silly having the Americans there in the first place.
I think capturing the barbarian cities is realistic enough.
 
The Aztec is powerful and America in the game always be vassal of Aztec.
I also wonder why America like to build his second city NewYork in the place where Chicago should be.

Actually, in my current game, the Aztecs and Incans both hated the US and DOWed him.
 
I like to play as the good ol' US of A.
 
I also wonder why America like to build his second city NewYork in the place where Chicago should be.

WHAT? Three irrigated corn, Marble, and several irrigated tiles not good enough?
 
I means its name should be Chicago;Of course it is a perfect place to build a city.
 
The AI has no idea of 'real city-placement'. There are fixed name orders.
 
I usually play Earth18 every other game for fun more than a challenge (when you know where all the resources are the games a lot easier). I shake up some of the civs and leaders, though always keep the new world free as I too feel it's unrealistic and I like the race to astronomy.
 
When I play it, I usually play as England, with the express purpose of ignoring Europe, and heading west to colonise north/south America, which, especially south America, is quite easy. After that, I head for places like Australia, grabbing as much land as I can, usually ending up with domination.

Although I did once play as Monty, which made for a very different game. I destroyed the puny Americans very early on with a rush of Jaguars, then almose completely colonised north and south America before any European/Asian civs showed up.

What really satisfys me, every time I play, is that I find Inca with the same three cities in the same three places, completly unable to do anything.
 
the earth map changed civ for me. i was bored in custom games cause you always have a boring start, with only a few resources and it always seems similar. the earth map gives everyone a strong and different start, and using the different civs in different locations makes each one unique to play as. and for some reason i feel the drama is heightened on the realistic earth map, it feels more real i guess. it is definitely easier, knowing the map beforehand and practicing strategies. but ever since i found it i play earth maps exclusively. it wasn't long before i found the popular longearth3 version of it. they have that and lots more and www.civearth.com then after a while i modded longearth3 slightly to make my own perfect version. im thinking of making a new one soon. i definitely suggest modding longearth3 to make your own perfect version, its easy, just use worldbuilder for terrain and resources. then save a worldbuilder file, and go open it with word. now you can change one civ to another and also change leader. so for instance, i changed germany to holy rome, same capital. then i moved arabias capital to ethiopia, and changed arabia to ethiopia. its also fun to mix leaders, i made capac japans leader, oda nobunaga. ind fin japan is awesome. i add a little resource, like giving mansa musa two gold in capital since his gold was legendary. and u can change starting techs, like i give egypt mysticism cause i always thought they should have it. real life egypt started religions, and both their leaders are spiritual, and their special building is good for getting prophets. one thing that u should definitely mod it for, is to give all civs 3 archers to start. maybe give them hunting and archery too. because on monarch and above, the game is supposed to do that, but for some reason it doesnt on earth maps. they always have only warriors to start, which makes it too easy to grab a capital early even on immortal or deity. and another thing i recently noticed, is that on deity the computer does not start with two settlers like they should. now that i know that i only play earth maps on deity, its still hard but not impossible. my favorite team on this map is england, i won on deity by only using the islands then beelining astronomy and grabbing up the new world. i also like carthage, persia, egypt, khmer, and my new japan. most of them are fun though. civ earth is the best.
 
i definitely suggest checking out www.civearth.com for new earth maps if you like earth 18, they have better ones i think. i noticed from playing the included earth 18 map, that every time i play inca only gets 3 cities in the mountains, and aztec destroys america and gets north and south. i like having the new world open and having astronomy be a major turning point. this map is a lot of fun multiplayer too.
 
When I play Earth 18 Civs I make changes to the map,I remove 3 Incan Mountains and the Panama Mountain.I also make Iberia bigger so that Isy in all her goodness can expand.
 
I am not satisfied with the way Earth is portrayed in the maps included with Civ IV. I edit the maps to fit the way I see (& also researched about) the world:

- Europe would have a slightly bigger France & a more hostile Scandinavia (as well as some other geographic corrections)

- Africa would have the plains jungles turned into deciduous forests, a more humid Atlas Range, some additional floodplains, hydrographic correction, all mountain ranges below 1500 m (average) are turned into hills

-The Middle East gets a bit more of fertility, & the Mesopotamian rivers are joined in their mouths, just like in modern Earth.

-Southeast Asia gets gems, & the Indonesian islands get some corrections

-The Far east gets some more rivers, as well as floodplains

-Central Asia gets some mountain passes & plains hills with forests (that's to simulate forested mountains), as well as more floodplains & oases.

-North America gets slightly warmer & fertile lands, the Canadian Artic Islands get soe ice off, &the Misissippi basin gets corrections; & the waters between Alaska & Siberia are crossable by galley.

-Central America gets some fewer mountains (no Panama peak), the Caribbean gets its islands properly scaled (Hispaniola is WAY bigger than Crete, & the Earth map doesn't show that). Also, the Bahamas get 2 tiles, not 1.

-South America gets deciduous forest wherever jungle is placed, the Andes gets 2 mountain passes, & the Patagonia gets slightly enlarged. I also add a seatile oil to SE Brazil (due to major oil deposits being discovered there last year).

-Oceania gets Australia some bits of additional rivers, NZ gets a drier Southern Island, & some Pacific isles get their terrain corrected (i.e. Rapa Nui/Easter Island gets stone & forest). Hawaii gets no peaks, & instead forests & jungle.

-Greenland gets some coastal ice removed, & its southern coasts get tundra tiles.
 
I'm gonna need to run a game with those modifications someday.
 
My PC can't handle it and it's not balanced.
It takes away one of the most interesting part of the game: early planning and tuning your game on the starting area and neighbors. On the earth map you know everything from the start. Not my idea of fun.

If I want to play on a real map I load hearts of iron 2. I don't know how to explain it, but the map there feels like the real world, not like the civ "toy version" and its random city placement.
 
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