Easy way to get AI to declare war on you

[Zannhart]

aaaaa

 

[WarandPeace]

I never bother with who starts what war with whom.
If i felt like the other guy's terriotory would look better as a part of mine then I'd make no fuss and attack, regardless of which current government I'm in.
But sometimes the computers would get grouchy --due to my superiority over them-- and decides to all war me at the same time or face the inevitable destruction of my force. Usually they'd demand something, and call it a pity they serve to me, I'd always tell them to F*** off, then instantly I'd find myself in war with 5 other civs, whom were totally peaceful, and the 5 civs warring me and only me.

 

[jteef]

The way i did it was, just constantly attempting to place a spy into russia at the time. after about 10 tries she finally declared war. it costs a lot of money. I am not sure if the other civs attitudes are affected by this or not. Maybe somebody could verify?

jt

 

[alexiscody]

Why are you trying to provoke the AI. It does not matter who declares war. You reputation is affected when you break treaties within the 20 year period. Check your active treaties when you talk to the AI. If they are all expired you can declare war without it affecting you. Just watchout for those D#@m mutual protection pacts.

 

[mcilvafr]

I noticed that if you are in Democracy and someone declares war on you, your people get more patrotic * we love the king days * for awhile at least.

Frank

 

[WUM]

when i go to war, i usually talk to all other civs and have them sigh an alliance to my future-enemy. Then all these civs declare war on my future-enemy... directly followed by my enemy to declare war at me!

This way i don´t declare war myself (not that that is of any importance though) AND i´m as sure as can be that all the other civs won´t attack me at the side of my enemy!

besides that, the best way to get your enemy 'out' is to isolate his capitol by destoying all roads around it, without actually capturing it (untill no other cities remain).

 

[Zannhart]

aaaaa

 

[hoyatables]

So last night I started a game Archipelago-style. I was on a decently sized island with the Romans, and wiped them out before either of us made contact with any other Civs. In the process of doing this, I pretty much stabbed them in the back repeatedly (much like Brutus and Cassius and the others stabbed Caesar). I would surround their city, refuse to remove my troops and declare war, pound on them, get them to sue for peace when they only had one unit left, take their workers and gold, and then refuse to leave and attack the next round. Did this to all three cities.

Here's the question: should my reputation be hurt with all the other Civs because of these transgressions? By the time they find me and I find them, for all they know I have had sole possession of the island since 4000 BC. Should my reputation be bad?

By the way, let me once again say I miss the free Civ advance that came with Philosophy - SUCH the advantage in the early game. Since I go right to Republic, it would be a great way for me to get Code of Laws real quick and have Courthouses built by the time I'm ready for the Republic.

 

[Craterus22]

For what its worth here is my version...

Here is what I did with repeatable success:

1. Trade tech with super big bad guy ai
2. Make mutual protection pacts with all remaining ai NO MATTER WHAT THE COST (techs I just traded for - whatever)
3. move a single unit into superbig badguyai (or SBBGAI for short)territory.
4. SBBGAI declares war on me when i say no to his request to have me move
5.All the mutual protection pacts kick in and the end result is that its everyone against SBBGAI!

I didn't think it would work at first because I thought the game would think that I was the one declaring war by crossing the ai land without permission - but it does work because the ai is the one officially declaring war,,,, bummer

 

[calng]

Well, I had all the races in my current game launch a war on me. First it was the zulus, I wouldn't pay tribute so they declared war. They then had an alliance with Japan who also declared war on me. It was kewl in the beginning, I was taking over some Zulu cities, and then Russians entered in claiming to be in an alliance with Japan, then German entered claiming to be in an alliance with Russia. So, now, they are all on war with me. I have played all the civ's before, but it feels as if this new Civ 3 game is much harder than before. Im only playing chieftain and Im getting my a$$ whipped.

 

[Machi]

Ha ha! same thing happened to me. Doesn't it just get the old blood flowing when they all gang up no ya?

ofcourse I had Immortals and pretty soon they were all whimpering and left with their tails neatly tucked between their legs.

hehe he

 

[alexiscody]

I agree that it is better to have the AI declare war to lessen war weariness, but I am not certain if declaring war lowers your rep. The book states that your rep is affected by breaking active treaties. I have found that world leaders do not change there impression of me if I declare war when a peace treaty has expired. I declared war 10 times in my current game, but only when it did not affect active treaties. The other world leaders opinion of me did not change. I declared war once with an active treaty and every world leaders opinion of me changed.

Just my thoughts

 

[jc011]

sometimes when they demand something from me... i will just say goodbye (name).. and usually they will not declare war on me. this doesn't always work though,

 

[RAL2000]

Getting out of their demands is easy. Just ask to counterpropose, then clean the table, then offer them 20 bucks. I've yet to see my first case when they didn't walk away wagging their tails thanking me.

 

[Elias Haviola]

Originally posted by Zannhart
Second reason is, even if the peace treaty has already expired, declaring war on another Civ still ruins your rep with all other civs.

Can this be confirmed? The manual makes no mention of this and I've heard many explicitely comment that merely declaring war doesn't affect reputation - only breaking treaties does.