Elite units

[Hawkster]

In several recent games I've noticed (warlord level - playing as either Babs or Romans , ver 1.21f) that when any of my units reach elite status after winning in combat - almost without fail the next battle they will get beaten - unless the enemy unit is already weakened. Only very, very, very rarely do they win the next battle - so much so that I dread units becomming elite because thats the end of them. Why ??? Am I missing something here ?

 

[Kilroy]

You're just seeing what you want to see. I've never noticed that - ever.

 

[DaSilva]

I know what hes talking about.

Veteran unit wins battle, becomes elite and turn ends.

AI then brings fudgingg full hp cossack from nowhere in and kills him.

Bugger!! Not again!!!

 

[Pygzilla]

I've only seen it when My unit was attaked again before it can heal:shotgun:

 

[Tweedledum]

Originally posted by Kilroy
You're just seeing what you want to see. I've never noticed that - ever.

Why the hell would he WANT to see it!?
It happens - and all too frequently. My Elite units die with depressing regularity...

 

[d3dash]

IF ONLY THEY WOULD BRING BACK FIREPOWER!!!!

 

[Zachriel]

Originally posted by Hawkster
In several recent games I've noticed (warlord level - playing as either Babs or Romans , ver 1.21f) that when any of my units reach elite status after winning in combat - almost without fail the next battle they will get beaten - unless the enemy unit is already weakened. Only very, very, very rarely do they win the next battle - so much so that I dread units becomming elite because thats the end of them. Why ??? Am I missing something here ?

That occurs when your newly elite attack unit is stuck in the open without support. Bring along sufficient foot soldiers, or with mounted units, retreat to a nearby town.

 

[PinkIronclad]

i SO much agree with you!!!
elite units always die after their new rank

 

[etj4Eagle]

Originally posted by Zachriel


That occurs when your newly elite attack unit is stuck in the open without support. Bring along sufficient foot soldiers, or with mounted units, retreat to a nearby town.

Yep and also those newly formed elite units probably are not at full health either (since they just fought a battle). As such they are just ducks to be shot at by the enemy. But if you protect your troops you won't unnecessarly loose those new elite units. I just finished a long war eliminating England from my continent and lost only a few elite units in the whole war.

 

[allhailIndia]

Try to put Elite units into a city to heal if you are invading with strong defence. Out in the open, they are just sitting ducks

 

[Akka]

Originally posted by d3dash
IF ONLY THEY WOULD BRING BACK FIREPOWER!!!!

I shouted heavily at Firaxis about the lack of Firepower, and I was not the only one. Now, it was one of the things they actually listened and fixed : if you look, in the 1.21f patch, you can adjust hit point on a unit-per-unit basis. Sure, it's not like a true firepower, and there is plenty things that you can't reflect without the firepower, but it's definitaly a fix for 90 % of the troubles about fight.